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Moon · 02-11-2008, 04:16 PM

I have no idea what to think of this:

YouTube - Ranya of NYC & Maqamikaze company

I think it's supposed to be some kind of comedy piece? I personally don't think Um Khalthoum songs are suitable for comedy/fantasy stuff.

fadua21 · 02-11-2008, 06:07 PM

I didn't like it

It is a beautiful piece of music, not suitable for comedy, in my humble opinion...

Suheir · 02-11-2008, 06:32 PM

Embarrassing.

Aniseteph · 02-11-2008, 09:29 PM

Great title for the thread Moon, can't put it better myself - "???"

firshania · 02-11-2008, 09:52 PM

no matter what people will do, there will always be somebody to critic.

I think this song is beautifull, but it's not sacred, and I don't agree with all the "don't touch to Oum Kalthoum!!!!" thing. I liked this performance, it was original and very well done.

summerdance · 02-12-2008, 12:25 AM

I think it's incredibly offensive to denigrate something simply because you cannot understand it.

Um Kulthum may not be sacred to you, but if it's sacred to someone else, that should be respected. Every culture has things and people that are of great value. The more effort we make in respecting each other, the better.

They were not that funny or cute, in my opinion and they could have done it with any random song and chose this one. I guess any other song and maybe we wouldn't be talking about it here.

I don't mean anyone in particular here, but I found this performance to be in very poor taste.

Amber · 02-12-2008, 12:28 AM

I thought it was an original and cute way to look at the song.

I didn't like the masks.... but the idea was so cute. I wouldn't call it bellydance, but then again it doesn't have to be. You can do all kinds of different dances to Arabic music.

Moon · 02-12-2008, 12:30 AM

Firshania, Oum Khalthoum is kind of sacred to a lot of Arabs, especially to Egyptians. When she performed, concerts would last for hours and people would be late for there work next morning, public transport would be a mess but that was considered normal. She sold more records than Elvis and the Beatles together...

And even if it wasn't for Oum Khalsoum having some kind of sacret status, the lyrics of this song have nothing to do with this performance so that's just weird anyway.

Aniseteph · 02-12-2008, 12:53 AM

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You can do all kinds of different dances to Arabic music.

Well yes, you can shimmy and undulate to the call to prayer, or grin your head off while dancing to a tragic love song, or dance an Irish Jig to someone's National Anthem. It doesn't matter if it's bellydance or the hokey cokey - if you don't know enough about the background when you take things from outside your own culture you risk offending people or looking like an idiot. Don't expect people not to react.

janaki · 02-12-2008, 01:13 AM

Creativity, fun, fusion, they all have their own boundaries. When the boundaries are crossed it ain't good any more. This is neither funny nor creative. This is one of my favourite pieces and I feel not so good to see something like this happen. I don't understand why the choreographers don't check the background of the music.

02-11-2008, 04:16 PM	#1 (permalink)
Moon V.I.P. Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: the Netherlands Posts: 3,627	??? I have no idea what to think of this: YouTube - Ranya of NYC & Maqamikaze company I think it's supposed to be some kind of comedy piece? I personally don't think Um Khalthoum songs are suitable for comedy/fantasy stuff. Last edited by Moon; 02-11-2008 at 06:21 PM. Reason: typo

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fadua21 Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 82	!!! I didn't like it It is a beautiful piece of music, not suitable for comedy, in my humble opinion...

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Suheir V.I.P. Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Europe - London Posts: 1,227	Embarrassing.

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Aniseteph V.I.P. Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sussex, England Posts: 1,689	Great title for the thread Moon, can't put it better myself - "???"

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firshania Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 35	no matter what people will do, there will always be somebody to critic. I think this song is beautifull, but it's not sacred, and I don't agree with all the "don't touch to Oum Kalthoum!!!!" thing. I liked this performance, it was original and very well done.

02-12-2008, 12:25 AM	#6 (permalink)
summerdance Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 65	I think it's incredibly offensive to denigrate something simply because you cannot understand it. Um Kulthum may not be sacred to you, but if it's sacred to someone else, that should be respected. Every culture has things and people that are of great value. The more effort we make in respecting each other, the better. They were not that funny or cute, in my opinion and they could have done it with any random song and chose this one. I guess any other song and maybe we wouldn't be talking about it here. I don't mean anyone in particular here, but I found this performance to be in very poor taste.

02-12-2008, 12:28 AM	#7 (permalink)
Amber Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 73	I thought it was an original and cute way to look at the song. I didn't like the masks.... but the idea was so cute. I wouldn't call it bellydance, but then again it doesn't have to be. You can do all kinds of different dances to Arabic music.

02-12-2008, 12:30 AM	#8 (permalink)
Moon V.I.P. Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: the Netherlands Posts: 3,627	Firshania, Oum Khalthoum is kind of sacred to a lot of Arabs, especially to Egyptians. When she performed, concerts would last for hours and people would be late for there work next morning, public transport would be a mess but that was considered normal. She sold more records than Elvis and the Beatles together... And even if it wasn't for Oum Khalsoum having some kind of sacret status, the lyrics of this song have nothing to do with this performance so that's just weird anyway.

02-12-2008, 01:13 AM	#10 (permalink)
janaki V.I.P. Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: hong kong Posts: 1,211	Creativity, fun, fusion, they all have their own boundaries. When the boundaries are crossed it ain't good any more. This is neither funny nor creative. This is one of my favourite pieces and I feel not so good to see something like this happen. I don't understand why the choreographers don't check the background of the music.