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Old 05-15-2007, 09:25 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I wish your friend luck with her Iskanrani man!
They are the biggest hearted men I've ever met , but can be stubborn as well.
I love Askanderia, I miss it every time I am gone! Nothing like Gambari on the sea side followed by Ma'sil( apple askandrani shisha tobacco)

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Dear Summerdance,
I will pass the good wishes on. I LOVE to smoke good shisha, but have not in years now, because I am very addicted to tobacco.
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Old 05-16-2007, 12:05 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Hi A'sha!

Shisha was one of the things I missed most about being out of the country. I had such a hard time finding quality toabacco. the american stuff seemed too sweet and flavors like margarita and cotton candy. all I wanted was a good askandarni or double apple flavor. Mango's good too when I can find it. I found a great shisha last year and now my friends and I set it up almost every week!
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Old 05-16-2007, 12:10 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Hi Didi,

Zagareet, it's hard to explain, in egypt , we roll our tongue as we do it.It helps to get the sound out. I'ts a call to attention, some people have called it. you are shouting your joy, excitement etc, without using words. try to relay a feeling through your throat and voice. breath deep and see how long you can hold the zagaroota.
Practice is the only way to do it though!

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But my big question is, how do you do it? Can you train yourself to do it?

Thanks in advance for any info.
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Old 05-16-2007, 12:11 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Shisha was one of the things I missed most about being out of the country. I had such a hard time finding quality toabacco. the american stuff seemed too sweet and flavors like margarita and cotton candy. all I wanted was a good askandarni or double apple flavor. Mango's good too when I can find it. I found a great shisha last year and now my friends and I set it up almost every week!
Dear Summerdance,
The Saudi guys used to let me smoke shisha with them. They had really good stuff, but I do not know what it was. They said you have to buy really good quality shisha or it is terrible. They were rich, I guess, so they could afford to buy whatever they wanted. They also used to bring me Ouda, the wood looking incense, and frankincense from Yemen. I still have some frankincense.
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Old 05-16-2007, 12:35 AM   #25 (permalink)
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Hi Ai'sha!

I love saudi incense, it's so pure. The stuff I get here, smokes and doesn't smell half so good.
Tobacco, Is found online, I've discovered, if you read brands. Certain ones are very badly made. I've been lucky, here recently. some of the smaller shops have good suppliers and i stocked up!
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ok, how specifically does one pull off a zaghareet? Try as I might for three years I haven't been able to master it. Plus, I can't see what anyone is doing with their mouth because it's always covered!
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Old 05-18-2007, 02:25 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Yeah, that was my question, too. Maybe it's something that's hard to teach/explain if you've grown up doing it...keeping in mind that explaining anything to do with phonetics and mouth positioning is very hard to do in mere words on a page. I've taught phonetics/pronunciation for people learning French, and half of it is watching and demonstrating the mouth shapes and tongue movements. So I'm beginning to doubt there's a way to learn zagreet from a web forum. Just like it would be impossible to learn belly dance from a book.

But thanks anyhow, ladies, for all the suggestions and explanations!

Everybody have a fantastic day!
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Old 05-18-2007, 10:20 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Zagharood is an expression of joy. It can also be used to express defiance like in war. Its done all over Africa and most likely was introduced into the Arab world by their proximity to various African cultures.

I've seen Fifi do it during her shows when she was feeling very happy. I've found though that among upper class Egyptians you only hear it a weddings, not at 5 star hotel nightclubs. I have heard women do it Moroccan or Egyptian, when I've performed, but those were more informal occasions.

I would say always when in doubt don't. take your que from the people around you. Some people, depending on their class or backgroung consider it to be very old fashioned or low class. It depends.

I've seen it done with the tongue side to side, but also with the tongue flicking the bottom of the front teeth, in and out, which is how I do it.
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To the best of my knowledge a zaghareet should be used at a wedding and it is a ululation that when translated means finally. Like when an American says YES! only different... Aiwa is better to say.
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I talked to a girl about learning zaghareet, and how it's hard to practice when you live in a thin-walled apartment in the city (Same problem with zills). She told me that she used to practice zaghareet when driving on the freeway, to work, alone in her car. That's how she learnt.

I don't have a car, but maybe I should borrow my boyfriends car and go for a little zagharoota-drive
Now... with zills that doesn't really work. I could bring them on the drive and have a zill-stop out in the forest...
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