Pirika Repun

Marya

I am foreign born US minority citizen, and I can tell you that even 20 years from now still White people are majority in the US.

Do you know why? Because US immigration and naturalization do not want to NON European (non white) immigrants in the US, and every year it is getting hard to get legal visa (not even Green Card) to enter the US. Especially after the 911 incidents, visa situation is getting harder for the immigrants.

Like 150 to maybe 50 years ago, there were mostly European immigrants are the main immigrants in the US, but now more Non Europeans come to the US, especially from Asia, Caribbean Islands, and Central to South America. US Immigration DO NOT like minority people grow in the US, so what they do is make more restriction for immigration law and control immigration from non European countries. The same thing for become US citizen. They just raise the application fee about $100 more than previous fee, and change test form for harder than before.

US born citizens, especially majority people afraid those immigrants, especially minorities take over the US and take advantage of the US system. However, we immigrants are still struggled. If you don’t have working visa or Green Card it is hard to find job legally and many times work low wages. Even if you can work legally, still many restrictions for the job hunting and other things US born citizen never think of.

I have a lot to say about immigration and racial situation in the US, but I stop for now. I can tell you one thing, if you are US born majority citizen, you never understand minority immigrants’ situation, and don’t worry we never replace majority in the US, because government will control especially minoroty immigrants.

Marya

Pirika,

I accept what you say, however, I think the estimates were based on non-white births in the US, not immigration.

I also comprehend what you say about never understanding the situation of minorities because my personal experience is so different from yours, that doesn't mean I will stop trying to understand.

Marya

gypsy8522

So, the reason behind racial profiling is to make sure that all populations are being served fairly. Hmmm... that doesn't make sense. If racial fairness is a real moral principle and everyone was treated as a human being rather than a race or skin color, there wouldn't be any need to resort to such a measure to begin with.

Pirika Repun

Exactly! And the US would never have affirmative action as well!

Marya

Gypsy,

of course it doesn't make sense and of course you are right, the whole morass was an attempt to encourage, then legally require compliance with fairness. Humans tend to have categories of "them and us" stuck in their brains and changing the definition of who "us" includes is tough.

And as one friend of mine says "change happens one funeral at a time" meaning new, younger generations may have a better, fairer definition of "us" than the old.

We can only hope.

Marya

Tarik Sultan

I'm always skeptical of statistics. I guess time will tell. I really don't see how it will change things as long as the status quo remains the same. I think its divisive diversionary tactics. What we all need to be focusing on are the social and economic rights of all of us across the board. Then it won't matter what color one is or isn't and we could finally become a real country.

khanjar

Colour of a person is totally irrelevant, it is the person that matters most. I am invited to a wedding, my cousin who is half Sri Lankan, she is marrying a Chinese person of Irish descent, the guest list includes Japanese, Indian, Sri Lankan, Irish, Nigerian and American, just people, different races from different parts of the world, but just people. I would like to see a time when colour is totally ignored.

What may come to be by a census or whatever, may come to be, but I feel forecasts by census only serve to irritate the present. What comes, let it come and by peaceful means, the silent invasion, the right way.

Similar census suggests Islam will take over the western world, again let nature take it's course, people do have the right to choose and if that way is for them, then good luck.

Through conversation and understanding, we as the human race may evolve faster in this present age when internet brings the world together.

p.s. I think coloured women of any race are very attractive, it seems a thing with my family.

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Caroline_afifi

I think to stamp out racism is of course the perfect utopia, however, cultural identity and characteristics are so importaant to some people that they will go to great lengths to preserve it.

Some of the issues connected to what you are saying race is not purely racism, race and colour of skin is often extremely relevant.

In the UK we have many different cultural groups and a huge 'issue' with 'citizenship'.
Many cultural groups stay within their own group within their own area and mix only with their own cultural group in order to preserve their cultural identity. It is not always a fear of racism. The groups in an area close to me do not even mix with each other.

from the goverment perspective, this lack of intergration causes big problems.
The problems do not just affect the government but the people too. It has implications for health, safety and future happiness and well being.
It is not always about sinister motivations. I was a trustee for the Liverpool Arab Club for 10 years. We researched the issues and applied for funding and got lots of money. Without people ticking boxes, this would not have been possible. I find there is a flip side to everything.

Two years ago I was a teacher for younf refugee's from all over the world. They all say within their own group (or closest to it), the mini world politics that went on was unbelievable.

Even long established groups like the Jewish community (with is rapidly diminishing) has a policy of not mixing with gentiles and does not allow them into their youth centre and community centre.

SidraK

I would like to see a time when every individual's experience of race and cultural heritage and the way in which it has shaped their lives and the lives of their loved ones of any background is honoured and respected as part of what has made them into the wonderful human being that they are. Ignoring race and cultural difference in the name of tolerance is to ignore part of what makes us human and to deny the experience of our fellows.

ETA: I won't dwell on the fetishizing nature of the ps. attached to that post, but the use of the word "coloured" is pretty offensive in a North American context. Is it really still in common use in the UK?

khanjar

My apologies if it was seen as offensive, that was not my intention. As to is the word used in the UK, yes, to a certain extent, all depending on the age group and location, what was learned in a lifetime is hard to shed whence a new description of anything comes along. The truth is, many in my age group are somewhat uncomfortable with descriptions of the various races of people and very much fear offending, as we just don't know what is the current unoffensive description is. I have grown up with the term coloured as a polite word for what the elder generation used, they not meaning to be offensive, but it is what they learned in their lifetime, and so on. With each generation words change, but now, what is the correct term, we hear so much, it is confusing, if we use one word, we find it is ok for some, but not ok for others. People in Britain are largely a polite race, we do not wish to offend anyone, but we do get confused over what is the latest universal politically correct descriptive word for a person of another race.

I describe myself if asked as white, whether that is the correct pc word, I do not know, but it is what I have always known to be the descriptive word for my race. Of course I am not white, but a paler skin colour to those in other countries, that because of my location and ancestry.I f I lived in a hotter climate, my skin pigmentation will change to protect from the sun, could I then still be called white.

You see what words can do, they can cause offence where none is meant and all that because of often harmless misunderstanding.

But with nature the way it is, maybe we will all be the same colour one day. If that is possible, every one of us, colour or race is just as important as the next, these obscene scientific labels and the trouble they have caused will be resigned to the past.

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