What is the funniest thing you have seen in relation to MED? - Page 3

Reen.Blom · 06-24-2008, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Suheir

Musicians from different cultures love to jam, what from I've seen. My local Irish Centre often features Irish/other European/African/Arab/whatever musicians playing together.

That must be sooo interesting!

Brea · 06-24-2008, 03:07 PM

OK, well I might be jumping the gun here, but frankly a lot of the fusion I've seen is either not informed about the Irish or Scottish historical background, or the Middle Eastern one. It's just a fusion that doesn't make sense to me to start out with, but also makes me think that people doing it aren't generally all that informed about the dances they are doing. Much like other kinds of fusion appear to other people, I suppose. To be honest, I get the 'goddessy' vibe from such things. I think I'm just a little gunshy after having been involved in both things from a historical/cultural perspective and running up against extreme misinformation. So then I assume when I see fusion of that kind there's a lot of airy-fairy behind it. If that makes sense.

lizaj · 06-24-2008, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Brea

OK, well I might be jumping the gun here, but frankly a lot of the fusion I've seen is either not informed about the Irish or Scottish historical background, or the Middle Eastern one. It's just a fusion that doesn't make sense to me to start out with, but also makes me think that people doing it aren't generally all that informed about the dances they are doing. Much like other kinds of fusion appear to other people, I suppose. To be honest, I get the 'goddessy' vibe from such things. I think I'm just a little gunshy after havig been involved in both things from a historical/cultural perspective and running up against extreme misinformation. So then I assume when I see fusion of that kind there's a lot of airy-fairy behind it. If that makes sense.

I don't think we can expect people to be history majors to qualify to dance!
As long as a teacher or troupe leader is sensitive to cultural demands that what matters.
My European history is pretty good and my knowledge of the ME at the times of the Crusades and modern times is reasonable but I am not going to give my potential students a test before they dance.
I agree that silly errors like wearing a Khaleegi dress and dancing to Tunisian music phases both those in the know and might irritate folks who live in said countries but it ain't gonna start a war.
Also the fact that nearly all my blood is Scottish apart from 1 eighth Irish doesn't mean I can't do English rapper dance if I chose nor belly dance to the best of my ability.

I don't want to wear cowboy hat and line-dance but I will have a go at a bit of Am Cab and ATS as long as you don't expect me to eat half a cow sized steak and pecan pie and recite all your presidents off by heart!

da Sage · 06-24-2008, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Suheir

Musicians from different cultures love to jam, what from I've seen. My local Irish Centre often features Irish/other European/African/Arab/whatever musicians playing together.

The local ren-faire has a Piper Jam, which is Scottish/Irish bagpipes jamming with African/Arabic/Turkish drums, and lots o' bellydancers.

It wasn't planned, it just kind of happened...and it works very well.

da Sage · 06-24-2008, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by lizaj

I don't want to wear cowboy

For me, it depends on the cowboy.

Moon · 06-24-2008, 07:40 PM

Funniest things I saw... probably certain UBDCs

Or maybe this... hope that didn't hurt too much though
YouTube - belly dance blooper

Reen.Blom · 06-24-2008, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by da Sage

For me, it depends on the cowboy.

Yeeeee Haaaaa!

Sometimes you see a dance or hear a song, that you dont know the cultural background for, nor say understand the words or cultural context for the music, and yet you can connect with it emotionally....

So yes, that's what I look for most in any art, and also in dance.... The way the artist connects with the dance, and expresses her own emotions/experiences,personality etc through the dance. For me personally, if THAT is missing, then the show lacks soul, however she/he is versed in hitory geography or whatever....

Another story is expressing CORRECTLY the cultural context.... so if I go to see say national irish dancing I go with hope the its the real mccoy and the performers did their homework and not gonna feed me some home-made fusion if it is labeled as authentic.

As for stuff labelled as FUSION I am open minded - and yes look for emotional connection, above historical detail...

Gosh I confused myself!

Reen.Blom · 06-24-2008, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Moon

Or maybe this... hope that didn't hurt too much though
YouTube - belly dance blooper

Geez, I dont find that funny at all.... poor thing....

da Sage · 06-24-2008, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Moon

Funniest things I saw... probably certain UBDCs

Or maybe this... hope that didn't hurt too much though
YouTube - belly dance blooper

OMG, that was STONE! I know that hurt!

She's a pro, though...her dancing was flawless, and she got right back into her choreography/dance.

karena · 06-24-2008, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Brea

OK, well I might be jumping the gun here, but frankly a lot of the fusion I've seen is either not informed about the Irish or Scottish historical background, or the Middle Eastern one. It's just a fusion that doesn't make sense to me to start out with, but also makes me think that people doing it aren't generally all that informed about the dances they are doing. Much like other kinds of fusion appear to other people, I suppose. To be honest, I get the 'goddessy' vibe from such things. I think I'm just a little gunshy after having been involved in both things from a historical/cultural perspective and running up against extreme misinformation. So then I assume when I see fusion of that kind there's a lot of airy-fairy behind it. If that makes sense.

Maybe that happens if you take it out of its context. I've never associated Irish/Scottish stuff with godesses, but I suppose if you are far from the source it takes on a mystical otherness.

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Moon Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: the Netherlands Posts: 3,548	Funniest things I saw... probably certain UBDCs Or maybe this... hope that didn't hurt too much though YouTube - belly dance blooper