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Old 07-29-2008, 11:51 PM   #21 (permalink)
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K. Otherwise it would be seltic. But up north at least we say Celtic, like Keltic.



And I dunt think we have Dunkin donuts here. They've even spelt the name wrong.... It's doughnuts.

Just to add. If you're the footie team, then it's Seltic. But non football it's Keltic. But in both cases a C starts it off.
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Old 07-29-2008, 11:57 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Personally, I don't think it's so strange (not suggesting it's good/right) or particularly unique to our country. Dunkin donut's is a big corporation that cares about the only thing a big company cares about, money. They don't care one way or another about a scarf. They only care that it could affect their bottom line.
Well put Salome, I would rep you but...

I'm fascinated & yet hardly surprised. It would only take a dozen ill-informed complaints to make a company run for the hills, especially in today's brand-driven society.

I had actually enjoyed seeing more & more people wearing the scarves, when it first started it felt like a secret show of solidarity but now it's really widespread & hip, I don't think it has any deeper meaning over here.

It kind of makes me giggle, albeit in a saddened way, when evidence of just how scared we are of our own shadow, in a completely irrational way. If you were on the brink of inflicting terror on a population, it would probably take more than an apple pie girly in a scarf drinking coffee to tip you over the brink, surely? It also gives me great pleasure to imagine how much safer we are by putting our liquids in plastic bags at airports - phew, now the terrorists can't get to our liquids!

But I digress...
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Old 07-30-2008, 12:03 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Dear Those of You with Celtic Heritage,
I really want to know the answer to this question:
Is it pronounced
Celtic with a hard K sound at the beginning
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Celtic with a soft S sound at the beginning?
??????
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( Who is Franko-Berserker-Amerind and who promises to stay on topic after this.)

Yes, we have that problem here still, people who refer to the Kelts as selts.

I did some fifteen years ago belong to a Celtic living history group and it was often we were referred to as selts. Luckily now since the Celtic interest over the past few years, most in Britain use the hard ' c '. Like also, our national hero Boudicca, ( Boo-dik- ka ) most now know her name as the celtic name, not the latin name Boudicea , (Bo-a-di-cea ) it was for so long.


This website is a good one for explaining the difference, and I believe it is an American website ;

New World Celts


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Regarding the keffiyea / shemagh, they are so common as street wear in Britain now, I own two, a forest green and black one, (not the original colour, I dyed it), and my recent one for dancing, a black and red one, (I dyed that too). I have seen them referred to as Biker scarfs, emo scarfs and punk scarfs. My best friend's daughter collects them, they are everywhere.

I think if someone tried to 'disuade' the British people from wearing these things, I think the answer would be, 'get lost' or words to that effect. I certainly won't stop wearing them, as I see a very functional piece of clothing at an affordable price. I wear them as a dance scarf, a neck scarf and when the weather is particularly foul and I have to be out in it, I wrap it around my head a la Arab dust storm fashion.

The other thing of course is many know from where they originate, and all I can see with this is the increasing acceptance of a different culture, the way ahead.
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Old 07-30-2008, 12:14 AM   #24 (permalink)
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K. Otherwise it would be seltic. But up north at least we say Celtic, like Keltic.



And I dunt think we have Dunkin donuts here. They've even spelt the name wrong.... It's doughnuts.

Just to add. If you're the footie team, then it's Seltic. But non football it's Keltic. But in both cases a C starts it off.



Dear Sara,
Thankyou. I thought it was K sounding, but I also had thought I had heard it with the S sound too, so the best thing to do is Ask A Celt. ( Should be a call-in radio show, or perhaps an advice column!)
I think we have some kind of American team called the Seltics, too. I do not recall who they are or what they do...???
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Old 07-30-2008, 08:19 AM   #25 (permalink)
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K. Otherwise it would be seltic. But up north at least we say Celtic, like Keltic.



And I dunt think we have Dunkin donuts here. They've even spelt the name wrong.... It's doughnuts.

Just to add. If you're the footie team, then it's Seltic. But non football it's Keltic. But in both cases a C starts it off.
doughnuts...quite! and what is Dunkin supposed to be dunking? or is it a proper name.
If dunking..how do you dunk a doughnut.The only thing one dunks in one's tea here is a Rich Tea biscuit ( on that's a cookie!)

Yes. Keltic remember it's easy...we are a hard bunch.
Our skin has this faint blue-purple tinge from all that woad wearing.
When we fall over drunk, we can bounce back up because of all those years of doing it in springy heather.
We are a happy bunch despite the scowls..that's years of looking fierce while we cattle-raided the English.
We like the French because...the English don't!
and despite the fact I have all Celtic blood (Scots wi' a tiny dollop of Irish) I cannot do Scottish dancing not play bagpipes because I haven't learnt to...
now what could I be hinting at?
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I think we have some kind of American team called the Seltics, too. I do not recall who they are or what they do...???
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Why is the football team seltic? Does anyone know? Cos it is to do with Celts isn't it, cos doesn't it have Irish catholic links. Am I getting all mixed up??
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doughnuts...quite! and what is Dunkin supposed to be dunking? or is it a proper name.
If dunking..how do you dunk a doughnut.The only thing one dunks in one's tea here is a Rich Tea biscuit ( on that's a cookie!) :
first off I want to make it perfectly clear that I have not been in a Dunkin Donut for at least 30 years.

The spelling of many English words changed when Webster published his first dictionary and donut is an acceptable spelling for round fried cakes that have a hole in them, my spell checker accepts both spellings. Coffee is the liquid in which the donut is to be dunked.

When I was a student and dating a taxi cab driver he loved Dunkin Donuts because they were open 24 hours a day and had decent coffee. This is before Starbucks BTW. At that time anyway they also served food and were a popular hangout for law enforcement.

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Dear Marya,
WOW!!! The things you know!!! I actually kind of like basketball, with all those very tall people running around being wonderfully graceful in their own ways. I do not know any teams but occasionally if Michael is watching it, I will watch for a minute or two to admire the teamwork that looks almost dance-like, and the long muscles and the intense faces.
Now, if we could get them to wear kufiyehs so we could put this thread back on track! Everyone, please use the word "Kufiyeh" at least once in your posts so we will not be hijacking!!
Love, A.

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Old 07-30-2008, 02:31 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Some of the American spellings I just don't get, lol. Why miss out the letters? I dunt like the Word dictionaries, cus they always change English spellings automatically and make it wrong, so when you hand work in you get told off,
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