Belly dance costumes!

Salome · 10-05-2007, 09:42 PM

Hi Sara,

Did you make each of the costumes in the pictures above?

I ask because it was just brought to my attention that the costumes pictured are recognized by some in the community as dancer/models and some folks have voiced concern on if you have permission to use these photo's to represent your business & whether you actually made those particular costumes...

sara07 · 10-06-2007, 06:03 PM

Hi there basically we are being send many pictures of different kind of dresses and we make the excact same ones these pictures you see here are one of them that we can make as we made many of them. If you have any pictures of any dresses you want we can make them for you"

gisela · 10-07-2007, 08:07 PM

so basically you copy other peoples designs?

I guess that's a good business for you since I as a designer (not costumes) know how long time it takes to sketch and plan and make tests and find materials. Apart from the brand, that's also what you are paying for.

Sorry I just got a bit cranky. Maybe I was out of line...

Shanazel · 10-07-2007, 09:03 PM

Not out of line at all, Gisela. It is distressing to know someone may be out there knocking off your designs without permission and without royalties being paid. I don't design costumes, but I do design needlework, and this type of illicit use is rampant. Sara07, have you considered hiring a designer for your business and producing originals instead of knockoffs?

sedoniaraqs · 10-07-2007, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by sara07

Hi there basically we are being send many pictures of different kind of dresses and we make the excact same ones these pictures you see here are one of them that we can make as we made many of them. If you have any pictures of any dresses you want we can make them for you"

Besides copying other people's designs, you are using other people's photos without permission for your business. This is illegal and ethically wrong.

Moreover, I don't believe you can truly duplicate high-end professional costumes.

Sedonia

Azeeza · 10-07-2007, 10:44 PM

Those are my concerns as well.

I had no idea that the photos might not be stock photos, but the designs? I don't know much about copyright laws and costumes, but it doesn't seem ethically correct to me.

But, I'm no expert in the law department.

Azeeza

lizaj · 10-08-2007, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by sedoniaraqs

Besides copying other people's designs, you are using other people's photos without permission for your business. This is illegal and ethically wrong.

Moreover, I don't believe you can truly duplicate high-end professional costumes.

Sedonia

As I discovered on Bhuz,one photo is of Dahlal's model Debbie in a design they had a while ago before they "watermarked their photos" and the lovely lady in turq is a well known Australian dancer.
Locally a restaurant near me lifted a photo of a well known British dancer off her site to advertise their "Arabic night". Both the dancer actually dancing and the dancer whose copyrighted photo was stolen were very angry. Luckily the establishment concerned was suitably sorry. Sometimes this kind of thing does happen in all ignorance, believing no harm is done and no law is broken but the offender are making use of images and designs which have cost others time, effort and money and that's not fair and not legal!
Following trends in costuming and producing a cheaper alternative is only doingwhat the fashion industry does but vendors should use their own photos and display the actual goods surely?

Salome · 10-08-2007, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by sara07

Hi there basically we are being send many pictures of different kind of dresses and we make the excact same ones these pictures you see here are one of them that we can make as we made many of them. If you have any pictures of any dresses you want we can make them for you"

Thank you for answering my question. I deleted the pictures in your posts based on your answer, that you don't have permission to use them and didn't make the ones pictured. You are welcome to post pictures of the actual costumes you have made.

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Salome Super Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Corvallis, Oregon, USA Posts: 1,842	Hi Sara, Did you make each of the costumes in the pictures above? I ask because it was just brought to my attention that the costumes pictured are recognized by some in the community as dancer/models and some folks have voiced concern on if you have permission to use these photo's to represent your business & whether you actually made those particular costumes... Last edited by Salome; 10-05-2007 at 09:47 PM.

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sara07 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: England Posts: 4	custom made dresses Hi there basically we are being send many pictures of different kind of dresses and we make the excact same ones these pictures you see here are one of them that we can make as we made many of them. If you have any pictures of any dresses you want we can make them for you"

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gisela Moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Denmark Posts: 954	so basically you copy other peoples designs? I guess that's a good business for you since I as a designer (not costumes) know how long time it takes to sketch and plan and make tests and find materials. Apart from the brand, that's also what you are paying for. Sorry I just got a bit cranky. Maybe I was out of line... __________________ You need chaos in your soul to create a dancing star-nietzsche

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Shanazel Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Rocky Mountains USA Posts: 4,684	Not out of line at all, Gisela. It is distressing to know someone may be out there knocking off your designs without permission and without royalties being paid. I don't design costumes, but I do design needlework, and this type of illicit use is rampant. Sara07, have you considered hiring a designer for your business and producing originals instead of knockoffs? Last edited by Shanazel; 10-07-2007 at 09:05 PM.

10-07-2007, 10:44 PM	#8 (permalink)
Azeeza Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 831	Those are my concerns as well. I had no idea that the photos might not be stock photos, but the designs? I don't know much about copyright laws and costumes, but it doesn't seem ethically correct to me. But, I'm no expert in the law department. Azeeza