Emirates male dance with guns, video's

Maria_Aya · 09-12-2006, 07:26 AM

Hi there !!!
Its always fun to see how tecnology change a dance lol
I guess 50 years ago this dance was with swords today it is with guns !!!

From the contest for kids !!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzg51ty33Fo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drpcT...elated&search=

And male adult dance
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggyLUxfwhyQ

Moon · 09-12-2006, 11:00 AM

Kids with guns... That is so sad, even when it's only a dance.

Aisha Azar · 09-12-2006, 01:02 PM

Dear Aya,
What great footage!! I have been fortunate enough to see Saudis do Ardah with swords once when I was in the same performance with them. It was really wonderful. These guys look like they are doing the UAE version of Ardah but I am not sure if they call the dance the same thing. I once asked a guy from Abu Dhabi about Emirati men's dance and his reply was "We do crazy dancing"...(???)
Hugs to you,
A'isha

gwinity · 09-13-2006, 02:57 AM

That last one is a great clip, but the concept of dancing with weapons disturbs me somewhat. They look like they're having fun, though, and the little ones are cute.

maariku · 09-18-2006, 03:59 PM

Exactly... You look at them dance and enjoy themselves, it looks so much fun, that for a moment you actually forget that they are dancing with guns. thanks Maria for posting such great clips!

chryssanthi sahar · 09-19-2006, 03:27 AM

To be honest, I don't find this kind of dance fun at all, especially in the recent context of the expansion of Islamic fundamentalism.
O.k., maybe this dance was fun for the kids, but the video with the grown ups dancing this way, was rather scary to me. Especially the guys with the black cloths, didn't look at all as if they have been dancing just for fun. Don't forget, that dance has also served as a preparation for war in many cultures.
I would like very much to know what the songs are talking about, because I cannot get rid of the suspicion, that they are talking about war.

Tarik Sultan · 09-21-2006, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by chryssanthi sahar

To be honest, I don't find this kind of dance fun at all, especially in the recent context of the expansion of Islamic fundamentalism.

Religious fundamentalsits do not approve of music or dancing of any kind other than Koranic recitations, which they insist is not music. Don't forget it wasn't so long ago that we saw this expressed in Afghanistan. Not only were people not allowed to dance, they weren't even allowed to own musical instruments of any kind let alone play them. If the Taliban had their way, everyone of those people would have bben whipped and all those instruments destroyed along with the musicians playing them.

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Originally Posted by chryssanthi sahar

O.k., maybe this dance was fun for the kids, but the video with the grown ups dancing this way, was rather scary to me. Especially the guys with the black cloths, didn't look at all as if they have been dancing just for fun.

first of all, the guns were wooden fakes and if I were twilrling it like that and then flinging it up that high in the air and catching it, while in front of a pannel of judges no less, I don't think I'd be grinning like an idiot at the same time. Did it occur to you that he was nervous about being in a contest?

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Originally Posted by chryssanthi sahar

Don't forget, that dance has also served as a preparation for war in many cultures.

Riiight, we all know how well know the military forces are for their awe inspiring war dances....Wonder what kind of dance Bush did before he dicided to bomb the hell out of Iraq and kill thousands of innocent civilians?

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Originally Posted by chryssanthi sahar

I would like very much to know what the songs are talking about, because I cannot get rid of the suspicion, that they are talking about war.

Maybe it was something along the lines of get the Greek Dancer in the red costume? Okay, now I'm really being a smart ass, but honestly, honey relax. You are falling into the trap of stereotyping an entire people. Terrorists do not spend their time prancing around twirling toys, ITS JUST A DANCE I SWEAR TO YOU!

Love and light

Tarik Sultan

Lydia dubai · 09-21-2006, 08:08 PM

Thank you Tarik,your answer is so right i did not know how to put it ....but your answer just sooooo correct ,before i start my shows i have plenty of times performers of those kind of dancing when the evening start,it is just a traditional dance ,and honestly nothing wrong with it,thanks a lot for pointing it out so good. The UAE is one of the middle eastern country,s where everything is just fine,we dont have fanatics and people are ever so kind overhere..Thanks a million....Lydia

chryssanthi sahar · 09-22-2006, 02:56 AM

O.k., o.k. you convinced me

Thank you both Tarik Sultan and Lydia, that you calmed me down and took my suspicions out of my mind

Well, I suppose I got nervous, because in Germany where I live, people don't consider it to be very funny when somebody handles around with guns. They are very careful with martialism and violence, especially because of their recent past (Hitler etc). Well, there's nothing wrong with it, but sometimes one can be too careful.
By the way Tarik, of course I was not talking about Bush's war dance in the White House:p . But there are indeed war dances in many cultures, even in Greece. Our ancient Greek war dance was called "pyrichios" (which means "fire dance") and there is a modern adaption of it among the Pontioi dances (Pontioi= Greeks who came from Asia minor, from the Black Sea). And I can assure you, that dancing with certain kinds of music can really make you more aggressive and fearless than you usually are (maybe you have made such an experience yourself). War dances are very ecstatic. You find many of them in Africa, Asia and also among the native Americans. And I'm not talking about the symbolical war dances like sword and cane dances (which you find not only in Oriental Dance). I'm talking about ecstatic dances, whoses purpose is to make the warrior fearless and brave. But anyway, I believe you that those guys from the Emirates were dancing just for fun.

Demelza · 09-27-2006, 07:48 AM

I love to watch this kind of dancing myself !! and I like the way that they use guns - they are just keeping up with the times right !!?
However Chryssanthia is right in that there are many tribes/nations who dance before they go to fight. I see your point Chryssanthia....but this is fine, honest xx

(I suppose it's like them morris dancers here in england - they dance with long sticks. - although they do have those stupid bells on their legs which tends to de-toughen them !)

09-12-2006, 07:26 AM	#1 (permalink)
Maria_Aya Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Athens, Greece Posts: 2,252	Emirates male dance with guns, video's Hi there !!! Its always fun to see how tecnology change a dance lol I guess 50 years ago this dance was with swords today it is with guns !!! From the contest for kids !!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzg51ty33Fo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drpcT...elated&search= And male adult dance http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggyLUxfwhyQ

09-12-2006, 01:02 PM	#3 (permalink)
Aisha Azar V.I.P. Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Pacific Northwest USA Posts: 4,516	Uae Dear Aya, What great footage!! I have been fortunate enough to see Saudis do Ardah with swords once when I was in the same performance with them. It was really wonderful. These guys look like they are doing the UAE version of Ardah but I am not sure if they call the dance the same thing. I once asked a guy from Abu Dhabi about Emirati men's dance and his reply was "We do crazy dancing"...(???) Hugs to you, A'isha

09-19-2006, 03:27 AM	#6 (permalink)
chryssanthi sahar Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Heidelberg, Germany Posts: 1,485	To be honest, I don't find this kind of dance fun at all, especially in the recent context of the expansion of Islamic fundamentalism. O.k., maybe this dance was fun for the kids, but the video with the grown ups dancing this way, was rather scary to me. Especially the guys with the black cloths, didn't look at all as if they have been dancing just for fun. Don't forget, that dance has also served as a preparation for war in many cultures. I would like very much to know what the songs are talking about, because I cannot get rid of the suspicion, that they are talking about war. __________________ Oriental dancer and instructor of Greek origin, living in Germany www.chryssanthi.com

09-21-2006, 08:08 PM	#8 (permalink)
Lydia dubai V.I.P. Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Dubai United arab emirates Posts: 1,351	emirates male dance with guns,video,s Thank you Tarik,your answer is so right i did not know how to put it ....but your answer just sooooo correct ,before i start my shows i have plenty of times performers of those kind of dancing when the evening start,it is just a traditional dance ,and honestly nothing wrong with it,thanks a lot for pointing it out so good. The UAE is one of the middle eastern country,s where everything is just fine,we dont have fanatics and people are ever so kind overhere..Thanks a million....Lydia

09-22-2006, 02:56 AM	#9 (permalink)
chryssanthi sahar Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Heidelberg, Germany Posts: 1,485	O.k., o.k. you convinced me Thank you both Tarik Sultan and Lydia, that you calmed me down and took my suspicions out of my mind Well, I suppose I got nervous, because in Germany where I live, people don't consider it to be very funny when somebody handles around with guns. They are very careful with martialism and violence, especially because of their recent past (Hitler etc). Well, there's nothing wrong with it, but sometimes one can be too careful. By the way Tarik, of course I was not talking about Bush's war dance in the White House:p . But there are indeed war dances in many cultures, even in Greece. Our ancient Greek war dance was called "pyrichios" (which means "fire dance") and there is a modern adaption of it among the Pontioi dances (Pontioi= Greeks who came from Asia minor, from the Black Sea). And I can assure you, that dancing with certain kinds of music can really make you more aggressive and fearless than you usually are (maybe you have made such an experience yourself). War dances are very ecstatic. You find many of them in Africa, Asia and also among the native Americans. And I'm not talking about the symbolical war dances like sword and cane dances (which you find not only in Oriental Dance). I'm talking about ecstatic dances, whoses purpose is to make the warrior fearless and brave. But anyway, I believe you that those guys from the Emirates were dancing just for fun. __________________ Oriental dancer and instructor of Greek origin, living in Germany www.chryssanthi.com Last edited by chryssanthi sahar; 09-22-2006 at 03:01 AM.

09-12-2006, 11:00 AM	#2 (permalink)
Moon V.I.P. Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: the Netherlands Posts: 3,642	Kids with guns... That is so sad, even when it's only a dance.

09-13-2006, 02:57 AM	#4 (permalink)
gwinity Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 357	That last one is a great clip, but the concept of dancing with weapons disturbs me somewhat. They look like they're having fun, though, and the little ones are cute.

09-18-2006, 03:59 PM	#5 (permalink)
maariku Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Estonia Posts: 1,155	Exactly... You look at them dance and enjoy themselves, it looks so much fun, that for a moment you actually forget that they are dancing with guns. thanks Maria for posting such great clips!

09-27-2006, 07:48 AM	#10 (permalink)
Demelza Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Nottingham, UK Posts: 417	I love to watch this kind of dancing myself !! and I like the way that they use guns - they are just keeping up with the times right !!? However Chryssanthia is right in that there are many tribes/nations who dance before they go to fight. I see your point Chryssanthia....but this is fine, honest xx (I suppose it's like them morris dancers here in england - they dance with long sticks. - although they do have those stupid bells on their legs which tends to de-toughen them !)