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Old 08-28-2008, 09:49 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Oh and I would love to go back on topic, but sarcasm doesn't work so well on text and there's not really much one can say on the subject. Except, no men aren't more talented (although maybe I should stop worrying my pretty little head about such important things and get on with the housework, oops back to point one about sarcasm...)


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That's a sarcastic font, BTW. Or ironic or something. (actually it's Book Antiqua).
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Old 08-28-2008, 12:39 PM   #22 (permalink)
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To answer the question seriously, I think it depends entirely on your definition of "talented".

Male belly dancers are definitely not more talented than women. Talent is a gift and entirely independent of gender. Being a talented dancer is not just about technique, or just about charisma, or just about grace - it's a total package.

However, if you mean "are male dancers technically superior?", the answer is yes, they can be. For the same reason that male tennis players will generally defeat female players, or male sprinters will outrun female sprinters, male belly dancers can out-shimmy a woman any day.

Note I'm not saying all male dancers are technically superior to female dancers - any more than you would expect a male social tennis player to defeat Venus Williams. But the belly dance equivalent of Roger Federer will always be technically superior to the equivalent female tennis champion, because more muscle power means more control.

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Having said that, I have to confess I never feel comfortable watching male belly dancing.
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Old 08-28-2008, 01:58 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Male belly dancers are definitely not more talented than women. Talent is a gift and entirely independent of gender. Being a talented dancer is not just about technique, or just about charisma, or just about grace - it's a total package.

However, if you mean "are male dancers technically superior?", the answer is yes, they can be. For the same reason that male tennis players will generally defeat female players, or male sprinters will outrun female sprinters, male belly dancers can out-shimmy a woman any day.

Note I'm not saying all male dancers are technically superior to female dancers - any more than you would expect a male social tennis player to defeat Venus Williams. But the belly dance equivalent of Roger Federer will always be technically superior to the equivalent female tennis champion, because more muscle power means more control. **snip**
Now see i agree with you to a point on this one. Everything you said above is true however i don't think that superior muscular control will necessarily make a better dancer if the person is incapable of interpreting the music and capturing the essence of the dance. To me basing a better dancer on muscular control focuses on movement and ignores the other equally important characteristics of this artform and as such results in a superficial judgement on the dance. Oh, to be clear - i'm not accusing you of doing this , i'm just using you as a point of reference to move forward from.
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Having said that, I have to confess I never feel comfortable watching male belly dancing.
I am totally fascinated watching male belly dancing! Probably because it's something so new to me?
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Old 08-28-2008, 02:27 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Of course I forgot about how sheer strength was what technical ability in belly dancing was about. Silly me, I think I was daydreaming about Brad Pitt or something.
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Of course I forgot about how sheer strength was what technical ability in belly dancing was about. Silly me, I think I was daydreaming about Brad Pitt or something.
Makes me wonder how Brad Pitt, Colin Farrell or Russell Crowe will look like belly dancing?
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Old 08-28-2008, 06:57 PM   #27 (permalink)
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What Mya said about it's so not just technique - .
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...But the belly dance equivalent of Roger Federer will always be technically superior to the equivalent female tennis champion, because more muscle power means more control.
I don't agree with this either. Technique isn't just a strength thing, it's about how you do something, and I don't believe that how is related to the brute force you can put into it.

Belly dance equivalent of Roger Federer may have the strength to shimmy for 3 years and do floorwork supported on his little finger, but I've just seen that clip of Taheya Carioca dancing to Tahtil Shibbak, and testosterone-boosted muscle power has nothing to do with that.

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Old 08-28-2008, 08:28 PM   #28 (permalink)
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I'm going to put an end to this debate. Males are superior? Why? 'Cause the very best Belly Dancer in the world is a male - so by definition males must be better! Who is this male? Why, you even have to ask? That'd be me, of course!

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Old 08-28-2008, 08:36 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Of course, it's all so obvious now!
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Don't make Tarik and Mark to jealous you! LOL.

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