Glutes!!!!

jenc · 03-30-2008, 10:19 AM

I've just got Drills, Drills, Drills and have been enthusiastically exercising my glutes. Now I am more than happy to do this even if I don't need them for my dancing. It's amazing how many things there are to droop as you get older!!
Michelle Joyce says that they are the most important muscle for BD. Yet others don't mention them.
So what styles use the glutes and for what moves?
thanks
Jen

karena · 03-30-2008, 10:28 AM

No expert but I have only ever seen the glute thing in American bellydance. I think there is a glute shimmy, where they just use the glutes. No knees. But I haven't ever seen this outside of this context. There is a video on you tube somewhere of an American doing it on what looks like breakfast TV to me (sorry can't find it, nor remember the name. I think it was a famous American too but wasn't really my thing). But to my mind it is still important to engage muscles in order for the move to be sharp. Therefore on a hip drop/lift if you engage muscles including the glutes, pelvic floor etc if makes it sharper. That is what I was taught by an Egyptian dancer. So, to my mind outside of America the glutes are important, but only as much so as the other muscles used to make moves sharp.

But I stand, nay, look forward to being vehemently corrected

Suheir · 03-30-2008, 11:34 AM

Tito uses his, but only as a trick and to get the female audience shrieking.

Reen.Blom · 03-30-2008, 04:06 PM

Where is that Suhaila's video with glutes are made for walking? Absolutely hilarious!

On Ariellahs DVD she teaches to use glutes for shimmies and other hip moves- she emphasizes that while you keep your feet flat on the floor the glutes are the muscules that you use to lift the hips. I thinbk the same on Sera's DVD.... IS it more typical for tribal then?

Aniseteph · 03-30-2008, 04:12 PM

Here it is...YouTube - glutes made for walking

I agree with Karena.

Reen.Blom · 03-30-2008, 04:13 PM

http://forum.orientaldancer.net/beauty-fitness/1252-what-do-you-think-about-glutes-exercise.html?highlight=Suhaila+glutes

Here is the link to that thread!

Moon · 03-30-2008, 04:13 PM

unnecessary post, please remove

Reen.Blom · 03-30-2008, 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aniseteph

Here it is...YouTube - glutes made for walking

I agree with Karena.

This vid always makes me LAUGH!!!!!

Kashmir · 03-31-2008, 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by karena

No expert but I have only ever seen the glute thing in American bellydance. I think there is a glute shimmy, where they just use the glutes. No knees. But I haven't ever seen this outside of this context. There is a video on you tube somewhere of an American doing it on what looks like breakfast TV to me (sorry can't find it, nor remember the name. I think it was a famous American too but wasn't really my thing). But to my mind it is still important to engage muscles in order for the move to be sharp. Therefore on a hip drop/lift if you engage muscles including the glutes, pelvic floor etc if makes it sharper. That is what I was taught by an Egyptian dancer. So, to my mind outside of America the glutes are important, but only as much so as the other muscles used to make moves sharp.

But I stand, nay, look forward to being vehemently corrected

That's how I see it too.

Jane · 03-31-2008, 11:25 PM

I think the glute thing is unique to Suhalia school technique. IMHO think too much glute emphasis is over rated and odd looking. I have never taken from S.S., so I'm not sure how much of the info I'm hearing on the glute subject is really coming from her. My guess is that S.S. brought this in from her ballet training, where the glutes are firmed to keep the hips turned out. I firm the bottom of my butt cheek and the outside of the thigh to catch a hip movment or crisp it up. If I firmed up back there all the time, I'd wear myself out quick and all my movments would have the same tight dynamic. Not what I'm looking for for my dance style; I prefer a softer look.

03-30-2008, 10:19 AM	#1 (permalink)
jenc V.I.P. Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Colchester UK Posts: 1,023	Glutes!!!! I've just got Drills, Drills, Drills and have been enthusiastically exercising my glutes. Now I am more than happy to do this even if I don't need them for my dancing. It's amazing how many things there are to droop as you get older!! Michelle Joyce says that they are the most important muscle for BD. Yet others don't mention them. So what styles use the glutes and for what moves? thanks Jen

03-30-2008, 10:28 AM	#2 (permalink)
karena Moderator Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: The North, UK Posts: 811	No expert but I have only ever seen the glute thing in American bellydance. I think there is a glute shimmy, where they just use the glutes. No knees. But I haven't ever seen this outside of this context. There is a video on you tube somewhere of an American doing it on what looks like breakfast TV to me (sorry can't find it, nor remember the name. I think it was a famous American too but wasn't really my thing). But to my mind it is still important to engage muscles in order for the move to be sharp. Therefore on a hip drop/lift if you engage muscles including the glutes, pelvic floor etc if makes it sharper. That is what I was taught by an Egyptian dancer. So, to my mind outside of America the glutes are important, but only as much so as the other muscles used to make moves sharp. But I stand, nay, look forward to being vehemently corrected __________________ "Nothing is black and white, it's all shades of grey" Me

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Reen.Blom V.I.P. Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Between Heaven and Earth Posts: 2,262	Where is that Suhaila's video with glutes are made for walking? Absolutely hilarious! On Ariellahs DVD she teaches to use glutes for shimmies and other hip moves- she emphasizes that while you keep your feet flat on the floor the glutes are the muscules that you use to lift the hips. I thinbk the same on Sera's DVD.... IS it more typical for tribal then? __________________ Join WORLD BELLY DANCE DAY! www.worldbellydanceday.com

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Reen.Blom V.I.P. Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Between Heaven and Earth Posts: 2,262	http://forum.orientaldancer.net/beauty-fitness/1252-what-do-you-think-about-glutes-exercise.html?highlight=Suhaila+glutes Here is the link to that thread! __________________ Join WORLD BELLY DANCE DAY! www.worldbellydanceday.com

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Jane Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: In the mountains Posts: 412	I think the glute thing is unique to Suhalia school technique. IMHO think too much glute emphasis is over rated and odd looking. I have never taken from S.S., so I'm not sure how much of the info I'm hearing on the glute subject is really coming from her. My guess is that S.S. brought this in from her ballet training, where the glutes are firmed to keep the hips turned out. I firm the bottom of my butt cheek and the outside of the thigh to catch a hip movment or crisp it up. If I firmed up back there all the time, I'd wear myself out quick and all my movments would have the same tight dynamic. Not what I'm looking for for my dance style; I prefer a softer look.