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Old 08-28-2006, 11:09 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Well, thank you very much!! (I look quite lovely in electric blue!!)
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Old 08-28-2006, 11:09 PM   #22 (permalink)
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No comments on the video I posted? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBNk0nRXoko) ...
OK Moon! I liked the dancing, but it seemed to be fairly straight bellydance to me. Imagine it to some Egyptian music, add a bit of gold beaded fringe... The only gothic aspect I got was the costume (loads of black, slightly tribal and goth-y black hair), and different music.

Even the performance style was quite upbeat - when you can see her face she seems quite smiley and open, which doesn't say Goth to me (oh dear, I'm probably being unfair to goths. I'm sure they smile a lot really)
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Old 08-28-2006, 11:29 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Ok, so it's not gothic bellydance, but maybe just a goth girl bellydancing Getting really confused here, haha! Actually I think goths can be as happy as any other people, especially when being surrounded by people with the same passions and interests, just like everybody.

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Well, thank you very much!! (I look quite lovely in electric blue!!)
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No problem. I like to mess with paint Didn't know about your favourite colours, so I just picked the ones from your avatar (or is that purple?)
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Old 08-29-2006, 02:54 AM   #24 (permalink)
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I think Bat Girl is a PerkyGoth. These are Goths who are cheered by coffins, bats, and gloomy accoutrements.

Some of them indulge a glitter habit on the side.:p
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Old 08-29-2006, 08:02 AM   #25 (permalink)
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OMG they've got "my" avatar on their homepage! :eek: That picture is so NOT a gothic bellydancer (not a bellydancer at all actually...)
What is your avatar? You mean the picture is yours? I thought that was Tempest herself.

By the way, there is now an article in the Hip Cirlce about that controversial (didn't I say that in a polite way?*evil grin*) video clip on the Gothic DVD:
http://www.thehipcircle.com/article/...?ArticleID=201
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I looked at that clip and agree that she seemed really upbeat too.
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de Sage, your comments are fantastic but as someone who dabbled with Goth style in my high school days (I was never a very hard core Goth, just could not take it that seriously ) it seemed to me that Goth subculture is not exactly encouraging of sunny dispositions. As for Jehan's explanation of her controversial performance I had a similar feeling to that when I read Sashi's explanation about her dancing with the pierced metal wings...I felt that they used a lot of rhetoric but never really addressed the actual concerns raised and if you strip away all the pretty words it came out like "this is my dance, and I will do what I like"...grrr
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Old 08-29-2006, 04:42 PM   #28 (permalink)
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I thought "doing what you like" was quite an important part of being a goth?
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Hi Moon! Sorry about the confusion. I was trying to comment on 2 different things. "Doing what I like and everyone else should just go **** themselves" attitude is important to many, including Goths but when handling dance, especially something so sensitive as belly dance I think it's quite different. I think if a dancer is doing, say, a lyrical or a contemporary piece they are less bound by tradition but belly dance has cultural roots so I think that if a dancer goes out and says she/he is doing belly dance, then she/he should be considerate and should be able to address specific points of critique when they dance in this style rather then glossing it over with rhetoric. I knew that when I bought Gothic Bellydance DVD I should not expect authenticity to be the main focus, nor as a Marilyn Manson fan am I easily scared or offended, but I thought that Jehan's number went too far for a bellydance dvd. I liked the song and the message in it but not the presentation.
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Wow Moon, you posted 430 times!
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