Plus Size Dancers - Page 8

nightdancer · 07-26-2008, 06:08 PM

One of my most favorite dancers in the Virgina area is very slender. My other favorite dancer in Virginia is not. But they each bring something to the floor that is utterly amazing. I am sorry that the OP feels that because of her weight, that she is not supported in the dance. I'd say its time to find a new teacher. In the end, its about beauty, skill, and education, for me. I dont care what the number on the back of the costume tag is.

Humorous story-There is a woman in my group that can do this utterly amazing shimmy/drop/lift/shift thing (its all one movement, thats the best I can describe it). I looked at her and said "Dang, Diane, how do you do that??" She patted my butt and said "You gotta have something back here to do it with."

Forward three weeks to Hafla. Said favorite dancer who is slender is performing. She has this amazing stomach and you can literally see every muscle isolated in its own movement. I said to her, "Dang, how do you do that??" She said (laughing) "It's not hard, but you cant mess up, or everyone will see it."

Moral of the stories-Everyone, of all shapes and sizes, brings something to the floor, and if you are good at it, shimmy on, baby.

Artemocion Malta · 07-26-2008, 09:58 PM

I think that if the person is happy and the size is healthy it is ok . But if the size is not healthy , no matter if she is a Belly dancer or not she should try to lose some weight. Super skinny won't look good but a healty size is glowing. Use your belly dance techniques to lose weight...just use some Turkish rmusic(tends to be faster than classical so its great cardio) or modern Arabic music and dance freely at home you will enjoy it and lose weight ...and tone up aswell. Dont do stupid crazy diets or something like that... just make healthy choices ...such as eat lot of fish, fruits and vegetables ...and drink water. Belly dance helps to get a better body but dont you aim to become verrrrryyyyyy skinny... you would get depressed and that not healthy either!

You are a woman , beauty is inside you no matter what size. If you need some tips on Body ,food and how to use belly dance as cardio and muscle exercise send me an email or post something here. I am one of those people that will never starve myself to have a nice body soo i just use the tricks and try to make healty choices

good food and belly dance are the ultimate secret for a great body

CORA>>

Babylonia · 07-28-2008, 02:47 PM

I have some "Queen Sized" women that have joined my class. It is so hard for anyone to take the first step towards any new activity and it is especially true for people who may feel self conscious. I am so happy that they have been consistent in coming to to my class for almost 2 months now. They must feel that they are getting something positive out of it because last week they all went and bought hip scarves. I am also very pleased that I have made them feel comfortable enough to brave "circle time".

LadyofLostTimes · 08-01-2008, 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by La Reina

This thread has taken a detour, but for Lost Lady - do not hang up your coin belt, and don't let some small-minded people make you a victim and take away something you love. I'm sure that for every cutting criticism, there are an equal number of admirers. ALL women are beautiful. We were made that way. My old Mum taught me that women were like roses - small and beautiful when young, eventually blossoming and becoming fuller, but still beautiful until the end.

Dance on!
La Reina

I want to thank you all that have left such nice comments.

I know that I have to lose weight but that is to be healthier not to make any one else happy. I am working on that so far I have lost 10lbs. I am just tired of people telling me that I have to if not I cannot be a belly dancer. You ladies have renewed my hope that there are still kind dancers out there. I truly wish that you lived by me. I do still dance but I learn from videos now, which can be fun when your cats want your hip scarf every time they hear the sound. LOL

Salma Parvaneh · 08-01-2008, 09:18 AM

Thank you for building up this thread!

In Germany, we discussed about it and came to the conclusion that a festival for "big beauty belly dancers" definitively is necessary.

We plan contests without being jugdeg for our shape and with costume shows for plus size dancers.

So I'll keep you informed and maybe you want to join us!

happy dancing!
Salma

Aisha Azar · 08-01-2008, 12:55 PM

Dear Gang,
I find the idea of a show for only large dancers as offensive as I find a show for all male dancers. It should not be about gender, size, shape religion or anything other than good dance.
Regards,
A'isha

Salma Parvaneh · 08-01-2008, 02:02 PM

Oh,

we will not close our doors for dancers with a "petite" shape, it is only the thing that we will offer more for the "bigger" ones.

Or do you have costume sellers in your corner who offers costumes and dresses in queen-size? We don't have.

And a.a.m. we are bordered out in contests, so I see no problem in starting an own one for the rubens ladies ;-)

KR
Salma

da Sage · 08-01-2008, 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LadyofLostTimes

I want to thank you all that have left such nice comments.

I know that I have to lose weight but that is to be healthier not to make any one else happy. I am working on that so far I have lost 10lbs. I am just tired of people telling me that I have to if not I cannot be a belly dancer. You ladies have renewed my hope that there are still kind dancers out there. I truly wish that you lived by me. I do still dance but I learn from videos now, which can be fun when your cats want your hip scarf every time they hear the sound. LOL

My kitties also love my hip scarves and veils! It is not easy to practice sometimes.

Aisha Azar · 08-01-2008, 02:19 PM

Dear Salma,
Right now there seems to be a trend toward doing all male shows, or all this or that kind of shows and events..... Isn't the idea supposed to be great dance, and not great male dance or great plus sized dance, or great thin person dance.
I do not see it as beneficial to the dance to limit the stage to a "type" of person. When I suggested that it is unhealthy for the dance to do shows based on gender, some people got really pissed. Just for everyone's information, I am an overweight old person, so no one should be getting nasty about what a prejudiced bitch I am this time around, hopefully. And yes, I do feel a bit defensive with good reason.
Regards,
A'isha

Shanazel · 08-01-2008, 02:34 PM

A'isha makes an excellent point. I think you mean well, Salma, but it is condescending to segregate people based on gender, size, age, or race from the general population on the pretext of giving them an equal but separate opportunity. If you want to give a show, then give one, but don't think you are doing anyone a favor by emphasizing size or any other distinguishing personal characteristic as a theme for the presentation.

07-26-2008, 09:58 PM	#72 (permalink)
Artemocion Malta Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Malta Posts: 45	Keep fit with Belly dance I think that if the person is happy and the size is healthy it is ok . But if the size is not healthy , no matter if she is a Belly dancer or not she should try to lose some weight. Super skinny won't look good but a healty size is glowing. Use your belly dance techniques to lose weight...just use some Turkish rmusic(tends to be faster than classical so its great cardio) or modern Arabic music and dance freely at home you will enjoy it and lose weight ...and tone up aswell. Dont do stupid crazy diets or something like that... just make healthy choices ...such as eat lot of fish, fruits and vegetables ...and drink water. Belly dance helps to get a better body but dont you aim to become verrrrryyyyyy skinny... you would get depressed and that not healthy either! You are a woman , beauty is inside you no matter what size. If you need some tips on Body ,food and how to use belly dance as cardio and muscle exercise send me an email or post something here. I am one of those people that will never starve myself to have a nice body soo i just use the tricks and try to make healty choices good food and belly dance are the ultimate secret for a great body CORA>>

08-01-2008, 12:55 PM	#76 (permalink)
Aisha Azar V.I.P. Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Pacific Northwest USA Posts: 4,463	Show for + sized dancers Dear Gang, I find the idea of a show for only large dancers as offensive as I find a show for all male dancers. It should not be about gender, size, shape religion or anything other than good dance. Regards, A'isha

08-01-2008, 02:19 PM	#79 (permalink)
Aisha Azar V.I.P. Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Pacific Northwest USA Posts: 4,463	Dance Dear Salma, Right now there seems to be a trend toward doing all male shows, or all this or that kind of shows and events..... Isn't the idea supposed to be great dance, and not great male dance or great plus sized dance, or great thin person dance. I do not see it as beneficial to the dance to limit the stage to a "type" of person. When I suggested that it is unhealthy for the dance to do shows based on gender, some people got really pissed. Just for everyone's information, I am an overweight old person, so no one should be getting nasty about what a prejudiced bitch I am this time around, hopefully. And yes, I do feel a bit defensive with good reason. Regards, A'isha

07-26-2008, 06:08 PM	#71 (permalink)
nightdancer Moderator Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Below the Mason-Dixon Posts: 236	One of my most favorite dancers in the Virgina area is very slender. My other favorite dancer in Virginia is not. But they each bring something to the floor that is utterly amazing. I am sorry that the OP feels that because of her weight, that she is not supported in the dance. I'd say its time to find a new teacher. In the end, its about beauty, skill, and education, for me. I dont care what the number on the back of the costume tag is. Humorous story-There is a woman in my group that can do this utterly amazing shimmy/drop/lift/shift thing (its all one movement, thats the best I can describe it). I looked at her and said "Dang, Diane, how do you do that??" She patted my butt and said "You gotta have something back here to do it with." Forward three weeks to Hafla. Said favorite dancer who is slender is performing. She has this amazing stomach and you can literally see every muscle isolated in its own movement. I said to her, "Dang, how do you do that??" She said (laughing) "It's not hard, but you cant mess up, or everyone will see it." Moral of the stories-Everyone, of all shapes and sizes, brings something to the floor, and if you are good at it, shimmy on, baby.

07-28-2008, 02:47 PM	#73 (permalink)
Babylonia Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: South Florida Posts: 402	I have some "Queen Sized" women that have joined my class. It is so hard for anyone to take the first step towards any new activity and it is especially true for people who may feel self conscious. I am so happy that they have been consistent in coming to to my class for almost 2 months now. They must feel that they are getting something positive out of it because last week they all went and bought hip scarves. I am also very pleased that I have made them feel comfortable enough to brave "circle time".

08-01-2008, 09:18 AM	#75 (permalink)
Salma Parvaneh Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Germany (Wuppertal) Posts: 40	Thank you for building up this thread! In Germany, we discussed about it and came to the conclusion that a festival for "big beauty belly dancers" definitively is necessary. We plan contests without being jugdeg for our shape and with costume shows for plus size dancers. So I'll keep you informed and maybe you want to join us! happy dancing! Salma

08-01-2008, 02:02 PM	#77 (permalink)
Salma Parvaneh Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Germany (Wuppertal) Posts: 40	Oh, we will not close our doors for dancers with a "petite" shape, it is only the thing that we will offer more for the "bigger" ones. Or do you have costume sellers in your corner who offers costumes and dresses in queen-size? We don't have. And a.a.m. we are bordered out in contests, so I see no problem in starting an own one for the rubens ladies ;-) KR Salma

08-01-2008, 02:34 PM	#80 (permalink)
Shanazel Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Rocky Mountains USA Posts: 4,578	A'isha makes an excellent point. I think you mean well, Salma, but it is condescending to segregate people based on gender, size, age, or race from the general population on the pretext of giving them an equal but separate opportunity. If you want to give a show, then give one, but don't think you are doing anyone a favor by emphasizing size or any other distinguishing personal characteristic as a theme for the presentation.