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Old 09-05-2007, 07:23 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I didn't know exactly where to post this topic but anyway.. I'm sick and tired of getting into silly arguments on youtube such as the comments made by fanatic idiots.. it is irritating me


First I get a message from an Israeli Jew that says "camel riders stop stealing our culture" What the....???? Last time I checked, judaism is not a culture, but rather a religion. This person is like many Israelis came from Europe (he's from Albania) so he has no connection to Middle Eastern anything. I also don't see how Egyptian music and dancing fits into "their" culture. I've heard all sorts of stories, like belly dancing was a godess temple dance, or that it originated in India.. but I wonder how on earth anyone can come up with a story like that!!!!!

I notice too many camel insults going around these days. So, if we're riding cars now does it mean that we should forget or be ashamed of our past?? I love going into the desert and riding camels.. until this day there's people who still live like that, the same way in the west there is people who prefer to live in farms.

Another fanatic who left offensive comments (which of course, I deleted)on videos of a famous dancer that I had put up. Next thing he replies to a comment I had made about the same dancer (video posted by someone else) where he continued the name calling. The funny thing is when I clicked on his channel he had only two things on his "favorite videos", one of them was a clip of that dancer. I don't understand WHY he would keep searching and watching her stuff, then trash her by saying what she's doing is "haram". I'm assuming it would be just as bad to be looking at 'sinful stuff' as it is to be doing the sin.
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Old 09-05-2007, 07:52 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I think what they want is attention. Just ignore such poor souls.
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Old 09-05-2007, 08:23 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I'm also annoyed by such comments, Gypsy. I don't receive them myself, but I see them pretty often when watching clips of European, American or Isreali dancers. Insulting things like "white girls can't bellydance" and "stop stealing our culture" etc. When I check the profile of these persons, they are often from the US or an Europian country. They probably have Middel Eastern ancestors, but still... Most of the time they don't even have bellydance-related videos in their favourites. Those comments make me sad and I always mark them as spam. I don't understand why the people who uploaded the video don't delete those comments.
Fortunately, sometimes I see a reaction by other Middle Eastern persons who say something like "Shut up, you are the one giving our culture a bad name."
I honestly don't understand why those people are so angry... Maybe some Americans and English should tell them to stop speaking English, because that is part of their culture?
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Old 09-05-2007, 10:18 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I've heard all sorts of stories, like belly dancing was a godess temple dance, or that it originated in India.. but I wonder how on earth anyone can come up with a story like that!!!!!
i've heard the india one as well. i've never demerited it because i don't know enough about anything yet to do so but the explanation was that those types of movement left india with the gypsies and were developed into the artform as we know it when the gypsies passed through/settled in various areas, presumably what we call the nations of origin.
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Old 09-05-2007, 11:49 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Aww, I'm so sorry you're having to put up with all this crappy nonsense. Your clips on YouTube are fantastic, these idiots just have nothing better to do.
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Old 09-05-2007, 12:09 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Dear, the only correct thing to do is just to ignore them. I know it is not easy, I also get furious when I read comments in youtube (or actually even online newspapers)... There is so much anger and stupidity out there, and people are not shy to show it. If you start reacting to those comments, you'll only be dragged into a nasty argument.

I am sure you can either disable comments or make sure you approve them before appearing on youtube when it comes to videos you've posted yourself. And on the other videos... just look at the video, it is what matters...
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Old 09-05-2007, 01:28 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Dear Gypsy,
When we put things out there in public, there is always some idiot who will respond completely out of line to what we are doing. It is the price paid for being in the public eye. I am sorry that this Jerk is being so rude. I recently had a situation on this forum where a Christian Arab was insisting that I am a Muslim, when in reality I am not, but I just try to be respectful of Muslim and other religious traditions. It can be very frustrating!!!
One of my friends went to high school here in America. She tells the story of how, after she learned to speak English and was able to tell people she was Arab, she would get a lot of "camel" remarks. She had never even seen a live camel. She had lived in a city in Jordan all of her life! Her family drove a Russian car called a Moscowvitch. Most of the people she knew in America were not even culturally aware enough to know that Russians HAD cars!! She began to understand that in many ways, she was more worldly than the people who were looking at here as if she was a "Saidi".
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Old 09-05-2007, 06:13 PM   #8 (permalink)
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When I watch YouTube videos I almost never scroll down to read the comments. If I maintained an account I guess it'd be different, I'd need to moderate it... But so many videos have the same theme in comment land: there is the cursory spam about how it was an ok video but we should check out some sexycam girl channel or something, then someone says something terrific, then someone says something really nasty and I find it all a big waste of time...
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Old 09-05-2007, 06:46 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Just ignore those jerks. Now the trend is that in almost every bellydance video we see links to pornography sites,
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Old 09-05-2007, 07:34 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Best thing is to ignore.... It is not only about bellydance but other things as well.... I had enought useless battles on forums, only get a shower of hatered and prejudice.... sad reality....
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