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Old 02-15-2007, 03:52 AM   #211 (permalink)
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Old 02-16-2007, 05:32 AM   #212 (permalink)
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May our Lady of the Blessed Beladi forgive you for suggesting that everything written in our sacred dance magazine, (Raks on) is not true! For it says right there in Letter From The Editor 1st paragraph line 1, (Right after Featured Articles and before Rates and Subscriptions), "Everything in this Magazine is sacred Truth as revealed to us by our Lady of the Blessed Beladi". I shall pray that you find the path back to the right beat
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Old 05-06-2007, 10:44 PM   #213 (permalink)
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Oh well all the sacred texts are written by ppl and interpreted by ppl! Hence all the contradictions and justifications of unfair things! Just think of the times when they were written, what kind of society and customs...

Well not ALL the Christians/Muslims/whoever else condemn dancing... when you talk of extreme cases, then yes...

Some Christians actually welcome dancing since David in the old Testament was dancing... LOL It all depends on how you interpret the things! And thank goodness "the times they are a-changing..."

I was actualy wondering if anyone could post here a poll with different religions to see how many christians/muslims/buddists/ateists etc are here on our Most Favourite Belly Dance Forum?????
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Old 05-07-2007, 03:08 AM   #214 (permalink)
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Oh well all the sacred texts are written by ppl and interpreted by ppl! Hence all the contradictions and justifications of unfair things! Just think of the times when they were written, what kind of society and customs...

Well not ALL the Christians/Muslims/whoever else condemn dancing... when you talk of extreme cases, then yes...

Some Christians actually welcome dancing since David in the old Testament was dancing... LOL It all depends on how you interpret the things! And thank goodness "the times they are a-changing..."

I was actualy wondering if anyone could post here a poll with different religions to see how many christians/muslims/buddists/ateists etc are here on our Most Favourite Belly Dance Forum?????
YES! I was going to say that the bible says dancing is ok along with being merry along with drinking and being social. There are so many christian religions out there, some wacko ones even, I bet those are the problem areas. If I thought for a minute that BDing was SINFUL, I would stop.
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Old 05-07-2007, 06:52 PM   #215 (permalink)
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In Islam, mixed-gender dance is forbidden. The extremists interpret certain tenets to mean that women should not perform in public before any men to whom they are not related, should certainly not be revealing their faces (let alone their bodies) in public, nor dance to 'decadent" Western music. The less-conservative will not let that hinder them in hiring performers for weddings and other celebrations -- but they bar their daughters from becoming professionals.

Judaism and Christianity are similar in that both have some highly conservative sects that have strict restrictions on when dancing is done (very conservative Orthodox Jews will allow single-gender dancing for things like weddings only), and others don't have any problem so long as it's not done in a lascivious manner (you can guess that's subject to opinion!).

Some churches actually have "liturgical dance" which is usually very dignified and done in the context of a religious service. Some Pentecostal churches go in for ecstatic dancing (I have seen little old ladies in African-American evangelical churches get up and boogie like crazy).

Very independent churches that cater to alienated young people (such as the "Church of the Scum of the Earth" in Denver) might not only encourage dancing but have their own rock bands. On the other end of the spectrum, the Amish do allow square dancing -- they regard it as 'games," not dance.

The way I see it, whenever a cultural group feels threatened, particularly its men, it clamps down on the free expression of its members, particularly its women.

My church doesn't have a problem with belly dance -- but then, it holds a "jazz service" every month.
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Old 05-07-2007, 08:39 PM   #216 (permalink)
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& I think I mentioned earlier... I am a reverend for the church of Perpetual Undulation!!!!!
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Old 05-07-2007, 10:28 PM   #217 (permalink)
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Well, I got an honour to meet a Christian lady Pastor, that does belly dancing!
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Old 05-08-2007, 08:36 PM   #218 (permalink)
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Sunday I was hired to dance at a Lutheran church banquet. It's basically a Mother's Day kind of thing, but they were calling it the Ya-Ya Sisterhood Dinner, and it had an appropriately somewhat irreverant tone.

They dug it. There were a couple of Catholic Sisters in the audience, and from what I heard from the organizers, they actually enjoyed themselves too.

As a prelude, I gave the usual speech about how in the Middle East, whenever there's a party there's almost always dancing, and how in sex-segregated societies women will often entertain each other by dancing and singing together. A couple -- actually 3 people -- came up to me afterwards and said they thought BD was supposed to be for men, and how wonderful that women actually did this for themselves.

Next month I'm dancing and doing a short mini-workshop at another church -- an Episcopalian church -- as part of their book-club entertainment. They're reading Anne Soffee's "Snake Hips" (can you believe it?) So I'm going in to talk about the book and the lifestyle, and teach a hip drop or two.

Little by little, I'm converting the cornfields.
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Old 05-08-2007, 10:21 PM   #219 (permalink)
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This is quite awesome! Nice to know that ppl are getting to see that belly dance could be a family entertainment!
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Old 05-09-2007, 10:25 AM   #220 (permalink)
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Hi Reem ,did anybody not know it can be family entertainment??? of course it is!!!ok the religion pol ,i dont want to do oops! i think that is between the person and the religion that person believe,s in....There is so many trouble,s in the world because religion i think everybody must keep there religion at home at leave it there ...In the middle east it is so normal that people are asking on a dayli base,,are you moslim or cristian?,, and i see many time,s people turn there back on other,s because you mention the religion that they dont like,even before that day al was just fine and ok still they give you a cold sholder...i think the world would be a better place if religion,s are kept at home...Hugs Lydia
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