Drum Solos - Page 2

Yasmine Bint Al Nubia · 08-20-2008, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by kayshier

i thoroughly enjoyed looking at that. I have to admit i was kinda puzzled in the first 50 secs. with the veil but then i realised it was just her entrance (another point i want to talk about)
I asked the question because i was wondering what qualities in a dancer would make a good drum solo,
is it only the extensive use of movement vocabulary that is in time with the music?
Yasmine says: No not really, but rather an extensive knowledge on what moves work best for certain segments of music! Also control of how the body visualizes the music via percussive elements. Drum solos refer to two things: first the tabla(def, riqq etc) is the only instrument that is playing..so it is the solo effort of the drum that creates not only the melody but also the beat. The second reference is that it's solo effort of a dancer as he/she connects to the music.

how does the structure of the music have any influence if any on the movements? can a dancer then predict the changes in a song so that her movements can reflect changes?

Yasmine says; Yes!! A dancer must understand how the music is constructed in oreder to dance to it. The 'rules of four" is one structure that allows the dancer to anticipate the flow and change within the music. In other words a phrase of music will repeat 4 times before it changes..usually the 4th phrase will contain an embellishment that signals the upcoming change. In order to understand this concept JUST LISTEN TO MUSIC, over and over again. It's very evident within the video clip. Also understanding basic rhytms is important as well as knowing each drummer has his/her own flair..the music will begin to play and speak effortlessly within the being of the dancer!

as for entrances, unlike the initial you tube, what are other ways one can enter on stage...or is it just a simple walk in and stand still?

Yasmine says: Yes there are a variety of ways to conduct an entrance, from demure to dramatic, sweeping and grand to sultry and enigmatic. The entrance tells the audience "I have arrived", it should be the hook that grabs the audience. of course tat depend son the music and mood of the dancer

The basic concepts that a professional dancer employs are not mysteries, but rather a honing of skill sets that derive from understanding music and the emotional connection to it. It has been said many times on the forum that it's not just about the moves....the dance vocabulary must connect to intangible but real concepts as well.
Yasmine

Maria_Aya · 08-20-2008, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by jenc

OMG yes !!!!!!!!!

Aisha Azar · 08-20-2008, 09:15 PM

Dear Gang,
This is the video of Hanan that I mentioned to Kayshier. For those of you who are all worried about the "look" on your face, please note that her face was completely unguarded and that was part of the allure of her solo, as well as her very human approach to the dance instead of it being all studied and perfected and technically intense.
That very visceral quality, that natural sexuality, that power of femaleness. that allure and mystery of humanness is what is what so attracts me to Egyptian style belly dance in a way that no other style quite does. THIS is what the dance is at its heart.
Regards,
A'isha

Yasmine Bint Al Nubia · 08-20-2008, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by kayshier

which do you suggest? because i can start looking

Sahra Saidi is a common drum song by Gamal Gommaa. In fact our troupe performs to this song, here are two clips by Ansuya and Aziza

YouTube - bellydance superstars - ansuya - sahra saidi (trommel)

YouTube - Aziza Nawal - Sahra Saidi

It's easy to watch the dancers, but close your eyes and hear and feel the drums! Hear the accents and the beat , how many timesdoes a phrase repeat? How does the dancer respond to the phrases? Does the drums make you feel joyous? Are the dancers expressing the emotional part of the drums and not just dancing to the beat?
I think each dancer has done a great job,even though the song is the sme each dancer makes it different. I think that's what is all about.

More dancers and drum solos:
Our own Salome

YouTube - Dança do ventre - Salome rakset el fadaa

Salwa of Belgium. She begins with a wonderful entrance and softly dancesto the music, then she launches into percussive movements as she responds to the drums..about halfway through

YouTube - Salwa @ Duisbourg Festival

Yasmine

Yasmine Bint Al Nubia · 08-20-2008, 09:33 PM

Please note her expression and the live musicians that played a variety of percussive instruments. She dances to each one!

Yasmine

Mosaic · 08-20-2008, 11:58 PM

I love Ansuya's interpretatation of Sahra Saidi
I also enjoy watching Sadie dance

YouTube - Sadie BellyDance

tried to embed vid, but it didn't work, so here is the link

~Mosaic

kayshier · 08-21-2008, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Yasmine Bint Al Nubia

Please note her expression and the live musicians that played a variety of percussive instruments. She dances to each one!

Yasmine

sometimes she acknowledges the base rhythm, sometimes she acknowledges the accent drumming. sometimes her lower body does something completly different from her upper body at the same time (something my teacher told me to aim for in learning the dance) her whole body is expressing the music!
i suppose there is no hard and fast rule per say as to how and when to acknowledge what..i guess that is up to the dancer.

kayshier · 08-21-2008, 11:44 AM

i like these 2

YouTube - Tito and little Mimo drum solo

and i also like this

YouTube - Bellydance superstars 5 - Sonia- Art of the drum solo

i know some people are not really keen on BBSS but there is something about this i like...

here is saida

YouTube - Saida - Derbake

not related..but what saida does between 1:14 and 1:20...that is what trinis will be inclined to call wining..(we typically dance like that in parties)

jenc · 08-21-2008, 08:41 PM

[quote=Yasmine Bint Al Nubia;83274]Please note her expression and the live musicians that played a variety of percussive instruments. She dances to each one!

is this the one?

08-20-2008, 09:15 PM	#14 (permalink)
Aisha Azar V.I.P. Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Pacific Northwest USA Posts: 4,518	Hanan Dear Gang, This is the video of Hanan that I mentioned to Kayshier. For those of you who are all worried about the "look" on your face, please note that her face was completely unguarded and that was part of the allure of her solo, as well as her very human approach to the dance instead of it being all studied and perfected and technically intense. That very visceral quality, that natural sexuality, that power of femaleness. that allure and mystery of humanness is what is what so attracts me to Egyptian style belly dance in a way that no other style quite does. THIS is what the dance is at its heart. Regards, A'isha Last edited by Aisha Azar; 08-20-2008 at 09:21 PM.

08-20-2008, 09:33 PM	#16 (permalink)
Yasmine Bint Al Nubia V.I.P. Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Akron, Ohio Posts: 1,139	Drum Solo With Mona Said Please note her expression and the live musicians that played a variety of percussive instruments. She dances to each one! Yasmine __________________ www.visionsofthenile.com

08-20-2008, 11:58 PM	#17 (permalink)
Mosaic Moderator Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Melbourne Australia, but a Kiwi Posts: 880	I love Ansuya's interpretatation of Sahra Saidi I also enjoy watching Sadie dance YouTube - Sadie BellyDance tried to embed vid, but it didn't work, so here is the link ~Mosaic Last edited by Mosaic; 08-21-2008 at 12:03 AM. Reason: you tube vid didn't embed

08-21-2008, 11:44 AM	#19 (permalink)
kayshier Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Trinidad and Tobago Posts: 225	i like these 2 YouTube - Tito and little Mimo drum solo and i also like this YouTube - Bellydance superstars 5 - Sonia- Art of the drum solo i know some people are not really keen on BBSS but there is something about this i like... here is saida YouTube - Saida - Derbake not related..but what saida does between 1:14 and 1:20...that is what trinis will be inclined to call wining..(we typically dance like that in parties) Last edited by kayshier; 08-21-2008 at 11:53 AM.

08-21-2008, 08:41 PM	#20 (permalink)
jenc V.I.P. Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Colchester UK Posts: 1,050	[quote=Yasmine Bint Al Nubia;83274]Please note her expression and the live musicians that played a variety of percussive instruments. She dances to each one! is this the one? Last edited by jenc; 08-21-2008 at 08:48 PM.

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