buzz words and dancers

Salome · 08-01-2008, 01:54 AM

Hey all,

I'm revamping an article and wanted to see if I could involve you all. If you could use, let's say up to 10 words, to describe the following styles what would they be? And what dancers do you think define each style?

Egyptian Oriental
Lebanese Oriental
Turkish Oriental
American Oriental
ATS
Tribal Fusion

Sita · 08-05-2008, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Salome

Hey all,

I'm revamping an article and wanted to see if I could involve you all. If you could use, let's say up to 10 words, to describe the following styles what would they be? And what dancers do you think define each style?

Sounds like an interesting article. now to put my thinking cap on ...

Egyptian Oriental - solo, elegant, smooth, internalised movement, controled, flows, graceful, full of emotion.
Lebanese Oriental - high heels, on the beat. (my knowledge is serious lacking here

)
Turkish Oriental - flamboyant, floorwork, romany havasi (influence), zils, pelvic movement, athletic, engergetic, Karsilama rhythm
American Oriental - props, theatrical, glitzy, veil, visual, fantasy,
ATS - communual, interactive, group performance, improvisational, zills, body art, ethnic-style, N.African/Central Asian/Romany influences.
Tribal Fusion - snake-like, world dance influences, electronic, atmospheric, dark, moody, locks & pops, paced.

Egyptian Oriental - Suheir Zaki, Fifi Abdou, Dina, Randa, Aida Nour, Raquia Hassan, Naima Akef, Mona Said etc.
Lebanese Oriental - Nadia Gamal
Turkish Oriental - Elçin, Sema Yildiz, Eva Cernik, Nesrin Tokapi, Birgül Beray,
American Oriental - Aziza, Ansuya, Suhaila Salimpour, Suzanna del vecchio
ATS - Carolena Nerricco (sp) FCBD, Gypsy Caravan, Black Sheep Bellydance, Domba
Tribal Fusion - Mardi Love, Rachel Brice, Sharon Kihara

Sita

Jane · 08-06-2008, 05:31 AM

Egyptian Oriental- centered, cane, bedlah, elegant, covered, tight, baladi, sequins, zeffa
Lebanese Oriental- heels, ruffles, fast, athletic, back bends
Turkish Oriental- big, zills, out there, jumpy, 9/8, skimpy costumes, Ottoman, spinning, floor work
American Oriental- props, cabaret, 7 part routine, restaurant, choreography, coins, belly rolls, tips
ATS- hippy, California, group, tatoos, India, arms lifted, in-sync, tassels
Tribal Fusion- goth, techno, mish-mash, experimental, piercings

Egyptian Oriental- Raquia Hassan, Fifi Abdo, Mona Said, Tito, Lucy, Randa, Suhair Zaki, Nagwa Fouad, Samia Gamal, Naima Akef
Lebanese Oriental- Amani (don't know much about Lebanese, sorry!)
Turkish Oriental- Reyhan, Tulay Karaca, Dandash, Princess Banu, Sema Yildiz, Nesrin Topkapi, Didem, Ozgen, Elcin, Eylul
American Oriental- Morocco, Serena W., Veda Sereem, Jamila Salampour, Dahlena, Delilah Flynn, Rhea, Amaya, Jillina, Habiba
ATS- Masha Archer, Carolena N.
Tribal Fusion- Rachel Brice, Sera

Mosaic · 08-06-2008, 12:18 PM

Egyptian Oriental: Cheeky/fun, sparkly bra/belts, dresses/power net, controlled, cane, hagalla, drum-solo,

Lebanese Oriental: Big heels,veil entrances, lots of onesided hipflicks left more than right)

Turkish Oriental: fast and showy, spins, hardly there costumes, sexyish, high heels,

American Oriental: mix of styles, props, snakes, group work, stunning costumes,

ATS: Colourful, zills, tattoos, headgear, big skirts, tribal jewellery, fringing/tassels

Tribal Fusion: Slow moves, tribal jewellery, sinuous, robotic/rap-ish, dark/earthy colours

Egyptian Oriental: Dina, Raquia Hassan, Fifi Abdo, Mona Said, Nagwa Fouad, Samia Gamal,

Lebanese Oriental: Yousra Hanem, Dalal, Asmahan, Dina Jamal

Turkish Oriental: Dandash, Asena,Topkapi, Didem, Elcin,

American Oriental: Ansuya, Amar Gamal, Morocco, Jillina, Sadie

ATS: FCBD, Red Lotus troupe, Devyani, Black Swan Tribe ( WA- AU) Ghawazi Caravan (NSW -AU)

Tribal Fusion: Rachel Brice, Sharon Kihara, Kassar, East Coast Tribal
~Mosaic

da Sage · 08-06-2008, 02:24 PM

I'm just a beginner when it comes to this kind of stuff, so here's the ideas a nooB might have:

Egyptian Oriental: upright, deliberate, smaller movements, from the center,
Lebanese Oriental: shimmies, heels, boobcam (because most of the examples I've seen are from shows with those aggressive cameramen), flirty, contained
Turkish Oriental: fast, jumps, spins, energetic, drops, circle skirts, skimpy skirts
American Oriental: no accent, snake arms, hands above head in "temple pose"
ATS: legalistic restrictions, Carolena, strenuous, strong group energy
Tribal Fusion: experimental, "we are artists", youth-focused, modern dance influences, jazz dance influences, hip-hop dance influences, popping, hard to do well

Yasmine Bint Al Nubia · 08-12-2008, 05:45 AM

Egyptian Oriental- orchestrated music,muscular driven movements done in a relaxed manner, layered moves within a complex phrase of music, bare feet,sweeps and glides, lifted but relaxed upper body, arms that frame. Direct influences form folkloric traditions
Samia Gamal, Lucy, FiFi, Aida, Tito

Lebanese Oriental-energetic hip and upper body moves, sweeping arms and increased use of floor space. Veil work, high heels and forward center of gravity, no tummy covers. Build up and release of tension throughout the dance.Emotional
Meissoun, Amani, Asmahan, Mark Balahadia

Turkish Oriental-Flamboyant, carefree, intricate pelvic and chest articulations, body punches and cuts, looser hip shimmes, steps and struts, hops and limps. Zills, veils and floorwork. Assertive yet feminine. Romany 9
Sema Yeldiz, Nesrin Topkapi, Princess Banu, Eva Cernik, Artemis

American Oriental- the flamboyance of Turkish, control of Egyptian and energy of Lebanese styles. Incorporation of various props and folkloric elements of many dances..easily influenced by outside dance influences Latin, Hip-hop etc
Suzanna Del Vecchio,Cassandra, Ava, Tarik, Amar Gamal, Salome

ATS- Indian, Flamenco and Egyptian influences. Intricate muscular moves that move along and beyond the natural body line..group vs solo. Incorpoation of various costuming style scene in Central and Southeast Asia. Zills, no veils,
FCBD,Bal Anat,Black Sheep Bellydance, Gypsy Caravan, John Compton

Tribal Fusion-Creepy!
Every tribal fusion dancer on BDSS!

Yasmine
P.S. I think my bias is showing!

Amulya · 08-12-2008, 07:51 AM

Maybe you could add some styles to the list, because you mentioned 'American Oriental', but for European, Australian etc. readers that is often not something they know much about. You could also add in some descriptions of styles from those countries. Europe is very influenced by Egyptian style, but their dancing often still look different, however it could become very hard to describe as there are so many countries and each has their own twist to it!
Another style that is very popular now is 'tribaret' where tribal and cabaret style are combined (more info: Tribaret/Glamour Tribal Belly Dance - tribe.net). There are several different names used for this style, like gypsy glitsy, or glam tribal, but tribaret is the most popular word.

Aziyade · 08-12-2008, 02:31 PM

MOROCCO is American Oriental????

I have a great difference of opinion with ya'll on that one. I would classify the glorious M as definitely Mohammed Ali Street style Egyptian. Nadia Hamdi influence to the max.

Mosaic · 08-12-2008, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Amulya

Maybe you could add some styles to the list, because you mentioned 'American Oriental', but for European, Australian etc. readers that is often not something they know much about. You could also add in some descriptions of styles from those countries. Europe is very influenced by Egyptian style, but their dancing often still look different, however it could become very hard to describe as there are so many countries and each has their own twist to it!
Another style that is very popular now is 'tribaret' where tribal and cabaret style are combined (more info: Tribaret/Glamour Tribal Belly Dance - tribe.net). There are several different names used for this style, like gypsy glitsy, or glam tribal, but tribaret is the most popular word.

I strongly agree with Amulya. Aussie style isn't the same as American cabaret. The influences appear to come from the Lebanese/Turkish population here with a strong Egyptian influence. Many Aussie dancers seek out Egyptian dancers and or travel to Egypt. I also think the tribal styles here are different, the basics are from America ( ATS/GC etc), so one could say we have "ATS" Aussie tribal Style

Tribaret is an expanding area, and appeals to the Australian dancers.
~Mosaic

Amulya · 08-13-2008, 05:06 AM

I agree with Mosaic on the Aussie Tribal style; they are very much into the ATS side of tribal, but put their own ideas in it. I haven't seen much tribal fusion, although some do Gothic Tribal in Brisbane. In Brisbane they are also a bit influenced by Greek belly dance, due to one of the dancers who is Greek.

But it will become really hard to start describing every single style in each country!

Btw, the Russian dancers have a specific style too!

08-01-2008, 01:54 AM	#1 (permalink)
Salome Administrator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Corvallis, Oregon, USA Posts: 2,186	buzz words and dancers Hey all, I'm revamping an article and wanted to see if I could involve you all. If you could use, let's say up to 10 words, to describe the following styles what would they be? And what dancers do you think define each style? Egyptian Oriental Lebanese Oriental Turkish Oriental American Oriental ATS Tribal Fusion

08-06-2008, 05:31 AM	#3 (permalink)
Jane Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: In the mountains Posts: 635	Egyptian Oriental- centered, cane, bedlah, elegant, covered, tight, baladi, sequins, zeffa Lebanese Oriental- heels, ruffles, fast, athletic, back bends Turkish Oriental- big, zills, out there, jumpy, 9/8, skimpy costumes, Ottoman, spinning, floor work American Oriental- props, cabaret, 7 part routine, restaurant, choreography, coins, belly rolls, tips ATS- hippy, California, group, tatoos, India, arms lifted, in-sync, tassels Tribal Fusion- goth, techno, mish-mash, experimental, piercings Egyptian Oriental- Raquia Hassan, Fifi Abdo, Mona Said, Tito, Lucy, Randa, Suhair Zaki, Nagwa Fouad, Samia Gamal, Naima Akef Lebanese Oriental- Amani (don't know much about Lebanese, sorry!) Turkish Oriental- Reyhan, Tulay Karaca, Dandash, Princess Banu, Sema Yildiz, Nesrin Topkapi, Didem, Ozgen, Elcin, Eylul American Oriental- Morocco, Serena W., Veda Sereem, Jamila Salampour, Dahlena, Delilah Flynn, Rhea, Amaya, Jillina, Habiba ATS- Masha Archer, Carolena N. Tribal Fusion- Rachel Brice, Sera Last edited by Jane; 08-06-2008 at 06:10 AM. Reason: Forgot to name dancers- oops!

08-06-2008, 12:18 PM	#4 (permalink)
Mosaic Moderator Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Melbourne Australia, but a Kiwi Posts: 1,611	Egyptian Oriental: Cheeky/fun, sparkly bra/belts, dresses/power net, controlled, cane, hagalla, drum-solo, Lebanese Oriental: Big heels,veil entrances, lots of onesided hipflicks left more than right) Turkish Oriental: fast and showy, spins, hardly there costumes, sexyish, high heels, American Oriental: mix of styles, props, snakes, group work, stunning costumes, ATS: Colourful, zills, tattoos, headgear, big skirts, tribal jewellery, fringing/tassels Tribal Fusion: Slow moves, tribal jewellery, sinuous, robotic/rap-ish, dark/earthy colours Egyptian Oriental: Dina, Raquia Hassan, Fifi Abdo, Mona Said, Nagwa Fouad, Samia Gamal, Lebanese Oriental: Yousra Hanem, Dalal, Asmahan, Dina Jamal Turkish Oriental: Dandash, Asena,Topkapi, Didem, Elcin, American Oriental: Ansuya, Amar Gamal, Morocco, Jillina, Sadie ATS: FCBD, Red Lotus troupe, Devyani, Black Swan Tribe ( WA- AU) Ghawazi Caravan (NSW -AU) Tribal Fusion: Rachel Brice, Sharon Kihara, Kassar, East Coast Tribal ~Mosaic Last edited by Mosaic; 08-06-2008 at 12:21 PM. Reason: bold headings

08-12-2008, 05:45 AM	#6 (permalink)
Yasmine Bint Al Nubia V.I.P. Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Akron, Ohio Posts: 1,171	Egyptian Oriental- orchestrated music,muscular driven movements done in a relaxed manner, layered moves within a complex phrase of music, bare feet,sweeps and glides, lifted but relaxed upper body, arms that frame. Direct influences form folkloric traditions Samia Gamal, Lucy, FiFi, Aida, Tito Lebanese Oriental-energetic hip and upper body moves, sweeping arms and increased use of floor space. Veil work, high heels and forward center of gravity, no tummy covers. Build up and release of tension throughout the dance.Emotional Meissoun, Amani, Asmahan, Mark Balahadia Turkish Oriental-Flamboyant, carefree, intricate pelvic and chest articulations, body punches and cuts, looser hip shimmes, steps and struts, hops and limps. Zills, veils and floorwork. Assertive yet feminine. Romany 9 Sema Yeldiz, Nesrin Topkapi, Princess Banu, Eva Cernik, Artemis American Oriental- the flamboyance of Turkish, control of Egyptian and energy of Lebanese styles. Incorporation of various props and folkloric elements of many dances..easily influenced by outside dance influences Latin, Hip-hop etc Suzanna Del Vecchio,Cassandra, Ava, Tarik, Amar Gamal, Salome ATS- Indian, Flamenco and Egyptian influences. Intricate muscular moves that move along and beyond the natural body line..group vs solo. Incorpoation of various costuming style scene in Central and Southeast Asia. Zills, no veils, FCBD,Bal Anat,Black Sheep Bellydance, Gypsy Caravan, John Compton Tribal Fusion-Creepy! Every tribal fusion dancer on BDSS! Yasmine P.S. I think my bias is showing! __________________ www.visionsofthenile.com

08-12-2008, 07:51 AM	#7 (permalink)
Amulya Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Northern Rivers (NSW), Australia Posts: 1,312	Maybe you could add some styles to the list, because you mentioned 'American Oriental', but for European, Australian etc. readers that is often not something they know much about. You could also add in some descriptions of styles from those countries. Europe is very influenced by Egyptian style, but their dancing often still look different, however it could become very hard to describe as there are so many countries and each has their own twist to it! Another style that is very popular now is 'tribaret' where tribal and cabaret style are combined (more info: Tribaret/Glamour Tribal Belly Dance - tribe.net). There are several different names used for this style, like gypsy glitsy, or glam tribal, but tribaret is the most popular word. __________________ The Belly Dance Video Clip List Blog: What Were They Thinking?

08-06-2008, 02:24 PM	#5 (permalink)
da Sage V.I.P. Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: USA Posts: 1,547	I'm just a beginner when it comes to this kind of stuff, so here's the ideas a nooB might have: Egyptian Oriental: upright, deliberate, smaller movements, from the center, Lebanese Oriental: shimmies, heels, boobcam (because most of the examples I've seen are from shows with those aggressive cameramen), flirty, contained Turkish Oriental: fast, jumps, spins, energetic, drops, circle skirts, skimpy skirts American Oriental: no accent, snake arms, hands above head in "temple pose" ATS: legalistic restrictions, Carolena, strenuous, strong group energy Tribal Fusion: experimental, "we are artists", youth-focused, modern dance influences, jazz dance influences, hip-hop dance influences, popping, hard to do well

08-12-2008, 02:31 PM	#8 (permalink)
Aziyade V.I.P. Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Cornfields of Evansville Indiana. Posts: 1,049	MOROCCO is American Oriental???? I have a great difference of opinion with ya'll on that one. I would classify the glorious M as definitely Mohammed Ali Street style Egyptian. Nadia Hamdi influence to the max.

08-13-2008, 05:06 AM	#10 (permalink)
Amulya Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Northern Rivers (NSW), Australia Posts: 1,312	I agree with Mosaic on the Aussie Tribal style; they are very much into the ATS side of tribal, but put their own ideas in it. I haven't seen much tribal fusion, although some do Gothic Tribal in Brisbane. In Brisbane they are also a bit influenced by Greek belly dance, due to one of the dancers who is Greek. But it will become really hard to start describing every single style in each country! Btw, the Russian dancers have a specific style too! __________________ The Belly Dance Video Clip List Blog: What Were They Thinking?