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Salome · 08-14-2008, 01:24 AM

The Russians, by and large, try to emulate Egyptian style. Albeit with their own 'accent' in some cases but I don't think I would classify it as a seperate style unto itself. That's just me though.

walladah · 08-15-2008, 02:57 PM

Hello everybody, this is how I perceive the styles you mention:

Egyptian oriental: Well, I could also do the same to hypnotise a snake, but actually it is more fun, hypnotising humans!... (Do you like me? Take care, I could be poisonous, too).

Lebanese oriental: We [plural of majesty] have decided to seduce everybody here and there will be no mercy for those who dare to look at us [plural of majesty]. (We [plural of majesty] hate high heels).

Turkish oriental: I used to amuse the Sultan and his high officers, but given there is no Sultan anymore, I am going to amuse you tonight (No, being locked in a harem was never my style).

American Oriental: Hi, there are many things to discuss, you and I, tonight, there are many jokes to have fun with, you and I, tonight – who’s the handsome guy over there? (you are so, but, I ’m sorry, you can’t have me!)

American Tribal Style: We are many, we are beautiful and we are powerful (and we know that if we, instead, marched for women’s rights, our audience would be far less in numbers and applauding).

Tribal fusion: I master the earth, the wind, water and fire, thunder and lightning, the ocean’s waves and the volcanos’ lava (and you are very lucky I am in a good mood today).

As for the dancers, I would prefer not to mention any, first because I think oriental dance is integrated somehow, not in appearance, but in essence, and second, because I think that I would be mean to categorise the dancers into one style, especially if they have not done so by themselves. An example: Naima Akef is Egyptian and categorized as an Egyptian style dancer, but if she danced today, she would also be considered as a Lebanese oriental dancer, and in any case, who am I to say what is Naima Akef?

Amulya · 08-17-2008, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Salome

The Russians, by and large, try to emulate Egyptian style. Albeit with their own 'accent' in some cases but I don't think I would classify it as a seperate style unto itself. That's just me though.

They do, but still their style looks different, it seems that lots of them have a background in ballet and it is very visible to me. But maybe it also depends on which dancers we have seen, I only know them from youtube.

Samira bint Aya · 08-17-2008, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Salome

The Russians, by and large, try to emulate Egyptian style. Albeit with their own 'accent' in some cases but I don't think I would classify it as a seperate style unto itself. That's just me though.

I also find that Russian style is very distinctive and influenced by ballet a lot. Perhaps because many of the dancers have a ballet background or maybe ballet is such a strong part of Eastern European dancing culture, that it is ingrained… Perhaps some of our Eastern European Forum members can enlighten me here…

However, the same can be said for Japanese, as well as Latin American dancers as well. We are all influenced by our local cultures and musical traditions.

When I was watching an international competition in Cairo, I could definitely observe different “dancing cultures”. Personally, I can also distinguish a Greek style also (because I am greek!

)

Also, the audience in different cultures has different notions of “beauty”, or “entertainment” and may have different expectations from performers. So the professionals in different countries have to cater to different expectations from the paying audience, and adjust their style accordingly.

Maria_Aya · 08-18-2008, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by walladah

Hello everybody, this is how I perceive the styles you mention:

Egyptian oriental: Well, I could also do the same to hypnotise a snake, but actually it is more fun, hypnotising humans!... (Do you like me? Take care, I could be poisonous, too).

Lebanese oriental: We [plural of majesty] have decided to seduce everybody here and there will be no mercy for those who dare to look at us [plural of majesty]. (We [plural of majesty] hate high heels).

Turkish oriental: I used to amuse the Sultan and his high officers, but given there is no Sultan anymore, I am going to amuse you tonight (No, being locked in a harem was never my style).

American Oriental: Hi, there are many things to discuss, you and I, tonight, there are many jokes to have fun with, you and I, tonight – who’s the handsome guy over there? (you are so, but, I ’m sorry, you can’t have me!)

American Tribal Style: We are many, we are beautiful and we are powerful (and we know that if we, instead, marched for women’s rights, our audience would be far less in numbers and applauding).

Tribal fusion: I master the earth, the wind, water and fire, thunder and lightning, the ocean’s waves and the volcanos’ lava (and you are very lucky I am in a good mood today).

As for the dancers, I would prefer not to mention any, first because I think oriental dance is integrated somehow, not in appearance, but in essence, and second, because I think that I would be mean to categorise the dancers into one style, especially if they have not done so by themselves. An example: Naima Akef is Egyptian and categorized as an Egyptian style dancer, but if she danced today, she would also be considered as a Lebanese oriental dancer, and in any case, who am I to say what is Naima Akef?

I dont know who you are, but I'm sooooooo HAPPY that you exist and you are living in Greece right? !!!! knowledge and great sense of humor !!!!
Maria Aya

belly_dancer · 08-19-2008, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by walladah

Hello everybody, this is how I perceive the styles you mention:

Egyptian oriental: Well, I could also do the same to hypnotise a snake, but actually it is more fun, hypnotising humans!... (Do you like me? Take care, I could be poisonous, too).

Lebanese oriental: We [plural of majesty] have decided to seduce everybody here and there will be no mercy for those who dare to look at us [plural of majesty]. (We [plural of majesty] hate high heels).

Turkish oriental: I used to amuse the Sultan and his high officers, but given there is no Sultan anymore, I am going to amuse you tonight (No, being locked in a harem was never my style).

American Oriental: Hi, there are many things to discuss, you and I, tonight, there are many jokes to have fun with, you and I, tonight – who’s the handsome guy over there? (you are so, but, I ’m sorry, you can’t have me!)

American Tribal Style: We are many, we are beautiful and we are powerful (and we know that if we, instead, marched for women’s rights, our audience would be far less in numbers and applauding).

Tribal fusion: I master the earth, the wind, water and fire, thunder and lightning, the ocean’s waves and the volcanos’ lava (and you are very lucky I am in a good mood today).

As for the dancers, I would prefer not to mention any, first because I think oriental dance is integrated somehow, not in appearance, but in essence, and second, because I think that I would be mean to categorise the dancers into one style, especially if they have not done so by themselves. An example: Naima Akef is Egyptian and categorized as an Egyptian style dancer, but if she danced today, she would also be considered as a Lebanese oriental dancer, and in any case, who am I to say what is Naima Akef?

hehehe.... FABULOUS descriptions!
are you Greek??

Mark_Balahadia · 08-21-2008, 01:15 AM

Hey Salome and everyone,

I'm currently writing an article for Oriental Dance.net on Lebanese style...still on going...I'm not done yet! Sorry

Salome · 08-21-2008, 04:39 AM

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I'm currently writing an article for Oriental Dance.net on Lebanese style...still on going...I'm not done yet! Sorry

Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!

Maria_Aya · 08-21-2008, 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by belly_dancer

hehehe.... FABULOUS descriptions!
are you Greek??

The nick is not greek its arabic, but says that the member is in Greece !!!
So I'm happy she/he exist

Maria Aya, Athens Greece

Sita · 08-21-2008, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark_Balahadia

Hey Salome and everyone,

I'm currently writing an article for Oriental Dance.net on Lebanese style...still on going...I'm not done yet! Sorry

Thank you!! I really need to read this; Lebanese style is a big gap in my overall understanding of Oriental dance (as I'm sure you could all tell

). I'm at the moment studying clips I've found but you never know for sure if the dancers are good examples of Lebanese belly dance. I'm also really intrigued by the suggestion Naima Akef dancing today would be labeled more Lebanese could somone please elaborate on this ?
Thank you

Sita

08-15-2008, 02:57 PM	#12 (permalink)
walladah Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Greece Posts: 14	about the oriental styles Hello everybody, this is how I perceive the styles you mention: Egyptian oriental: Well, I could also do the same to hypnotise a snake, but actually it is more fun, hypnotising humans!... (Do you like me? Take care, I could be poisonous, too). Lebanese oriental: We [plural of majesty] have decided to seduce everybody here and there will be no mercy for those who dare to look at us [plural of majesty]. (We [plural of majesty] hate high heels). Turkish oriental: I used to amuse the Sultan and his high officers, but given there is no Sultan anymore, I am going to amuse you tonight (No, being locked in a harem was never my style). American Oriental: Hi, there are many things to discuss, you and I, tonight, there are many jokes to have fun with, you and I, tonight – who’s the handsome guy over there? (you are so, but, I ’m sorry, you can’t have me!) American Tribal Style: We are many, we are beautiful and we are powerful (and we know that if we, instead, marched for women’s rights, our audience would be far less in numbers and applauding). Tribal fusion: I master the earth, the wind, water and fire, thunder and lightning, the ocean’s waves and the volcanos’ lava (and you are very lucky I am in a good mood today). As for the dancers, I would prefer not to mention any, first because I think oriental dance is integrated somehow, not in appearance, but in essence, and second, because I think that I would be mean to categorise the dancers into one style, especially if they have not done so by themselves. An example: Naima Akef is Egyptian and categorized as an Egyptian style dancer, but if she danced today, she would also be considered as a Lebanese oriental dancer, and in any case, who am I to say what is Naima Akef?

08-21-2008, 01:15 AM	#17 (permalink)
Mark_Balahadia Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: balad ra'eesa Posts: 204	Hey Salome and everyone, I'm currently writing an article for Oriental Dance.net on Lebanese style...still on going...I'm not done yet! Sorry __________________ badde 3eish!!! www.markbalahadia.com

08-14-2008, 01:24 AM	#11 (permalink)
Salome Super Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Corvallis, Oregon, USA Posts: 1,842	The Russians, by and large, try to emulate Egyptian style. Albeit with their own 'accent' in some cases but I don't think I would classify it as a seperate style unto itself. That's just me though.