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Old 01-18-2008, 09:20 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Well, it looks like a basic "cardio-belly"..."bellyrobic" class to me. Upbeat Arabic Pop blaring in the background, isolations performed at double speed...yep looks the same to me.

Not a novel idea in this neck of the woods, I'm not saying it's not fun...just not a new idea. She can actually patent the name Raqshobic because I doubt anyone would want to use it. The difficult part of combining bellydance with aerobic style activity is that the movement vocabulary is based on isolating muscle groups to create movement...that is not aerobic. The heart has to exceed and sustain a certain rate.
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I'm afraid no matter what you call it, it's not going to fit the bill.
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Old 01-18-2008, 10:41 PM   #12 (permalink)
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But I do understand all of it!
Thought so! Thanks Chryssanthi

Just found another Greek studio ad on this thread - http://forum.orientaldancer.net/othe...html#post60323
Is it just coincidence or is belly dance where it's at in Greece at the moment?

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Old 01-19-2008, 01:50 AM   #13 (permalink)
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lol every time I look at it, I read it as "Raqs-Phobic". As in "Afraid of Dance".
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Old 01-19-2008, 03:30 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Maria Athanassiadou, I don't have any particular problem with combining belly dance movements with aerobics for the latest version of the good old American Dancercise movement of the seventies, but the phrase "Pre-Islamic Raqsharqi" seriously calls the validity of your research, your claims, and your methods into question.

I urge you to investigate one of the forum's scholarly threads about the history of belly dance before you go any further with this line of advertising.

And I also read the word "Raqshobic" as raqs phobic. Perhaps it translates better in Greek than it does English.

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Old 01-19-2008, 04:16 AM   #15 (permalink)
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And I also read the word "Raqshobic" as raqs phobic. Perhaps it translates better in Greek than it does English.
Haha, I bet it does Shanazel Such problematic compositions of words are created only by people who don't have a particularly deep knowledge of a language. But as I mentioned before, since my fellow country people, the Greeks, are too lazy and too comfortable to check if something is o.k. or not, such things happen often in Greece. I mean she could have asked a native speaker if the term sounds alright in English, couldn't she? There are enough Americans, British, Australians etc. in Greece.
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Old 01-19-2008, 04:36 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Just found another Greek studio ad on this thread - http://forum.orientaldancer.net/othe...html#post60323
Is it just coincidence or is belly dance where it's at in Greece at the moment?
Urggggg This person is the biggest bluffer in Greece I happened to watch a performance of her students (and herself) in Athens some months ago. It was a disaster The girl knows just a bit Tsifteteli mixed with some movements of AmCab and some movements of Raqs Sharqi, but her entire repertory consists of all together maybe 10 moves, so it is embarasing that she claims to be a big expert on authentic Arabian dancing. She talks about having her roots in Egypt, but even if she does (which means that maybe her parents are Greeks from Egypt), she surely hasn't got brought up with Egyptian culture, if I judge from her dancing.
Besides this she spams constantly the Greek belly dance forum with advertisement about her school and she lies about her titles and authorities. The thread she posted here (or, better to say,her manager posted here) was also a spam. It was the same advertisement for her school like in the Greek forum, only this time in English, that's why I deleted it (I am the moderator of that forum).
Sorry that I'm talking so unfriendly about her, but I am generally mad with the belly dance in Greece right know. 90% of the people who claim to be great teachers and performers are bluffing and lying and they have no skills at all. They only want to make money, because it is easy to make money with Oriental Dance at the moment, especially if you are young and look like a model. The clubs in Greece are full with really bad dancers who have zero skills but look good and show enough flesh! Especially in Athens the situation is a disaster! In Thessaloniki things are a bit better, because there are some serious people and studios who do good work, but also there the majority of dancers is just trash!
Sorry, I had to tell all this, because I'm sooooo angry with different things I've experienced in Greece lately and also with some very stupid things which are going on in the Greek forum.
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Old 01-19-2008, 07:26 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Heya Chryssanthi,

I don't thnk you are making unfriendly comments at all. They are your true observations. The post of so long soooooooo full of STUFF. I always doubt people that post tooooooo much stuff about them. You know what guys, looking at these people it reinforces that Chryssanthi and Maria Aya are best in the business.

LOL, I also keep reading it as "Raqs Phobic"

I don't have problem with people that like to do dance/excercise fusion. Many people I have seen don't claim to be experts in the dance form. They borrow few belly dance moves to make thier excercise routines interesting.. But I have a problem with people that claim to have studied and researched for years and come up with STUFF like this!
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I read first Raqsophobic...... LMAO!!!
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What is the difference to the normal classes "belly dance" for fitness?
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Such problematic compositions of words are created only by people who don't have a particularly deep knowledge of a language.
For example, an American car company tried to market a car called a Nova in South America. Alas, "no va" in Spanish means "It doesn't go." And the Swedish company that marketed a vacuum cleaner in Amercia with the slogan, "Nothing sucks like a Voxx."
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