What Style is your Favourite? - Page 3

Reen.Blom · 07-12-2007, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by chryssanthi sahar

Ren.Bloom dear, you forgot the Greek Tsifteteli. It is not as complex and artistic like the other styles, since it is more a social/folklore than a stage dance, but it is a style on it's own. If you want to see how traditional Greek Tsifteteli (well, in a form adapted for the stage) looks and sounds like have a look at my Tsifteteli video:

By the way, my favorite styles are the Egyptian (especially the modern classical one), the Lebanese, ME folklore styles and of course the Greek Tsifteteli, with which I've been brought up

Thank you, Chysanhi sweetie pie! I wasnt sure if my list was ok, that's y I put in other! Thank you sooo much for the vid link - very educational for me! I only heard of Tsifteteli rythms and wasnt quite sure if it was a separate style! That's y I LOVE these forums: Learn something every day! YAY!

Lots of hugs to you, you are a star!!!

chryssanthi sahar · 07-13-2007, 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by nicknack

I also love the Tsifteteli which I want to see more of, chryssanthi that video is great there should be more, always more

Thank you very much Nicknack

I danced a Greek-Turkish Tsifteteli/Chifteteli song at my last Oriental Flow show and I'm going to put the video in youtube and of course post it also here. Maybe this would be interesting for you since you like both Turkish and Greek Tsifteteli

chryssanthi sahar · 07-13-2007, 04:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Reen.Blom

Thank you, Chysanhi sweetie pie! I wasnt sure if my list was ok, that's y I put in other! Thank you sooo much for the vid link - very educational for me! I only heard of Tsifteteli rythms and wasnt quite sure if it was a separate style! That's y I LOVE these forums: Learn something every day! YAY!

Lots of hugs to you, you are a star!!!

You are wellcome Reen.Blom honey

Well there is some confusion about Tsifteteli/Chifteteli, because at one hand there is this 8/4 Arabian rhythm which is called Chifteteli or Taksim. At the other hand, there is the Greek belly dance called Tsifteteli. If you want to know more about it you can read my article about Tsifteteli
What is Tsifteteli?
as well as the thread about Tsifteteli in the music forum
http://forum.orientaldancer.net/musi...hifteteli.html

Shanazel · 07-13-2007, 05:39 AM

I put down AmCab as my favorite since that is the only one I actually do. I'm not sure I could chose a favorite to watch. I especially love seeing the old style Egyptian dancers from the forties and fifties.

Fire Lily · 07-13-2007, 06:45 AM

I like modern Egyptian Cabaret.

But I learn Cabaret Fusion. So there is a mix of Spanish, Egyptian, American cabaret, tribal. Basically anything goes with me.

ATS I enjoy watching...but actually doing it...It's not my style.
I looooooooove Rachel Brice though. She's my tribal idol.

Reen.Blom · 07-14-2007, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by chryssanthi sahar

You are wellcome Reen.Blom honey

Well there is some confusion about Tsifteteli/Chifteteli, because at one hand there is this 8/4 Arabian rhythm which is called Chifteteli or Taksim. At the other hand, there is the Greek belly dance called Tsifteteli. If you want to know more about it you can read my article about Tsifteteli
What is Tsifteteli?
as well as the thread about Tsifteteli in the music forum
http://forum.orientaldancer.net/musi...hifteteli.html

Oh so Greek Tsifteteli does not use 8/4 Arabian rythm of the same name? Now this is confusing....

samsied · 07-14-2007, 08:22 PM

My favorite "style" to enjoy is really:
1--When the dancer seems to love his/her music!
2--When the dancer seems spontaneous even if choreographed. I like to feel like the dance is spontaneous and free. But that can apply to any style.
3--The costume looks beautiful on the dancer and enhances the dancing.
4--The facial expressions are engaging and the dancer makes eyecontact with audience members. (I love a nice smile, but the dancer can also look serious). I like to see how the music makes the dancer feel.
5--When the dance seems to flow and the transitions are smooth. (even with drum solos and fast music with lots of pops)
7--I personally prefer Middle Eastern, ME fusion or Amarabic music rather than totally unrelated music styles when watching a performance.

Dancers like this can be found in every country and style. I know most about Egyptian, American Caberet and British Interpretation of Egyptian (which is often much like some AmCab dancers who have strong Egyptian influences), so I tend to appreciate good dancers of those styles. I also tend to prefer nightclub/caberet/glamourous styles over tribal styles because sometimes tribal troupe performances do not feature the personal expression and audience connection I enjoy most. I love watching folkloric styles especially when they are the more expressive and individual styles (like beledi, chiftitelli, shaabi, assaya).

Reen.Blom · 07-15-2007, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by samsied

I love watching folkloric styles especially when they are the more expressive and individual styles (like beledi, chiftitelli, shaabi, assaya).

Is chiftitelli a folkloric style?

chryssanthi sahar · 07-16-2007, 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Reen.Blom

Oh so Greek Tsifteteli does not use 8/4 Arabian rythm of the same name? Now this is confusing....

It does, but seldom. It mainly uses Arabian 4/4 rhythms (mainly Maqsoum) and also 2/4 rhythms (mainly Malfouf). But the name Chifteteli is Turkish anyway and it means "two strings". In Greek we don't have "ch", that's why we made "ts" out of it and we call it "Tsifteteli".
By the way Samsied, which Chifteteli are you referring to? The Turkish one?

samsied · 07-16-2007, 03:43 AM

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Originally Posted by chryssanthi sahar

It does, but seldom. It mainly uses Arabian 4/4 rhythms (mainly Maqsoum) and also 2/4 rhythms (mainly Malfouf). But the name Chifteteli is Turkish anyway and it means "two strings". In Greek we don't have "ch", that's why we made "ts" out of it and we call it "Tsifteteli".
By the way Samsied, which Chifteteli are you referring to? The Turkish one?

Good question... I don't know very much about Tsifteteli, what I have actually seen has been your youtube clips so it I suppose I like the Turkish one? My spelling was probably just habit from how I spell the rhythm. Thanks for the correction. I would probably also enjoy seeing the Greek style as I am curious what it looks like after reading some of Maria's previous posts on the old forum and always enjoy Maria's performance clips so far. Watching your performance, I saw some of the individual expression that I like watching in other styles like beledi so I included it in my list. I am obviously not an expert.

View Poll Results: What is your favourite Style
Egyptian	86	64.66%
Lebanese	27	20.30%
Turkish	25	18.80%
ME folkloric styles (?)	20	15.04%
American Cabaret	30	22.56%
American Tribal	14	10.53%
Tribal Fusion (to middle eastern music ? A- la Rachel Brice?)	24	18.05%
Tribal Fusion (to other types of music e.g Ariellah, Sera etc?)	16	12.03%
Male dancing (does that go into Folkloric?)	7	5.26%
Other???	12	9.02%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 133. You may not vote on this poll

07-13-2007, 05:39 AM	#24 (permalink)
Shanazel Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Rocky Mountains USA Posts: 4,272	I put down AmCab as my favorite since that is the only one I actually do. I'm not sure I could chose a favorite to watch. I especially love seeing the old style Egyptian dancers from the forties and fifties.

07-13-2007, 06:45 AM	#25 (permalink)
Fire Lily Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Victoria, Australia Posts: 204	I like modern Egyptian Cabaret. But I learn Cabaret Fusion. So there is a mix of Spanish, Egyptian, American cabaret, tribal. Basically anything goes with me. ATS I enjoy watching...but actually doing it...It's not my style. I looooooooove Rachel Brice though. She's my tribal idol.

07-14-2007, 08:22 PM	#27 (permalink)
samsied Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 120	My favorite "style" to enjoy is really: 1--When the dancer seems to love his/her music! 2--When the dancer seems spontaneous even if choreographed. I like to feel like the dance is spontaneous and free. But that can apply to any style. 3--The costume looks beautiful on the dancer and enhances the dancing. 4--The facial expressions are engaging and the dancer makes eyecontact with audience members. (I love a nice smile, but the dancer can also look serious). I like to see how the music makes the dancer feel. 5--When the dance seems to flow and the transitions are smooth. (even with drum solos and fast music with lots of pops) 7--I personally prefer Middle Eastern, ME fusion or Amarabic music rather than totally unrelated music styles when watching a performance. Dancers like this can be found in every country and style. I know most about Egyptian, American Caberet and British Interpretation of Egyptian (which is often much like some AmCab dancers who have strong Egyptian influences), so I tend to appreciate good dancers of those styles. I also tend to prefer nightclub/caberet/glamourous styles over tribal styles because sometimes tribal troupe performances do not feature the personal expression and audience connection I enjoy most. I love watching folkloric styles especially when they are the more expressive and individual styles (like beledi, chiftitelli, shaabi, assaya).