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Old 01-21-2007, 11:14 PM   #11 (permalink)
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No. Lol. Not as far as I am awares anyway.

I am from two different types of Romani family (Eastern European and English), and I have never seen anything like this from either side.

As well 'Gypsy' isn't a very good term to use. My gram hates it, unless she wants to annoy someone. Lol. Usually the old folks she goes to bingo with. I'm not sure if it applies to other countries, but in England it's not nice to call someone it. Minst yas- there are worse words they say.

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Old 01-22-2007, 08:25 AM   #12 (permalink)
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yep...in slovakia u make sure to call em roma...but in france where I live I have been told that it is the other way round and that roma has a negative connotation ... dunno, I still keep calling it roma dance, roma culture etc.

but it really surprises me how so many people put on tags to their videos such as bellydance, folkore, gypsy an' stuff and it's not even related to the video !!!!
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Old 01-22-2007, 11:02 AM   #13 (permalink)
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I don't know how to call them actually. My bellydance teacher says not al gypsies are romani and not al romani are gypsies, so...
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Old 01-22-2007, 04:00 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Gypsy is a term used very generally now to describe people who travel or live in caravans, here it even extends now as far as calling someone who likes arts and stuff a lot a Gypsy.
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I realize that there is a lot of leeway given to SCA dancers, but there really needs to be a line drawn. (Plus, is this girl wearing a bikini top????)

I teach in our local SCA and have a heck of time trying to convince them that Tribal isn't "period" -- but since that's what they see at SCA gatherings, they assume it's accurate. I HAVE, however, gone over the "Gypsy" issue with them, so I think they would know not to do anything like this.

Still, I don't get why dancers go uncovered at SCA events. Especially THIS uncovered. I can't see a bikini top as being "period" to anything other than the late 20th century.
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Old 01-22-2007, 06:12 PM   #16 (permalink)
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What's 'SCA'?
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Old 01-22-2007, 07:03 PM   #17 (permalink)
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I realize that there is a lot of leeway given to SCA dancers, but there really needs to be a line drawn. (Plus, is this girl wearing a bikini top????)

I teach in our local SCA and have a heck of time trying to convince them that Tribal isn't "period" -- but since that's what they see at SCA gatherings, they assume it's accurate. I HAVE, however, gone over the "Gypsy" issue with them, so I think they would know not to do anything like this.

Still, I don't get why dancers go uncovered at SCA events. Especially THIS uncovered. I can't see a bikini top as being "period" to anything other than the late 20th century.
I certainly agree that this outfit is very modern, and it would be very wrong to claim that this is a historically accurate representation. Absolutely! Excellent point.

However, the title suggests that this is a Rennfaire or similar event, rather than dancing in an SCA context. At an SCA event, the audience would be in costumes ;-)

As for dancers who wear tribal gear at SCA events, some don't care and some may just be innocent newbies who do the best they know: I wore a tassel belt and Fat Chance choli the first year I went to Pennsic, it was all I had. Luckily, nobody gave me a hard time, I had a blast. Over the years, my wardrobe has developed quite a bit - and I am much better today and try to help my friends have a good time. For some people, it can be a process of sewing a little bit more and learning a little bit more every year. There is hope for some of the tasseled ladies - I am living proof.

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Old 01-22-2007, 07:40 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Hi Sister Sara, SCA stands for Society for Creative Anachronism. Her's a link
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Old 01-22-2007, 08:01 PM   #19 (permalink)
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How odd... Lol. I don't really know what to say.

Thanks for the link.

P.s- would give some rep, but I need to spread it about a bit lol.
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There is hope for some of the tasseled ladies - I am living proof.
I'm really not OPPOSED to the tribal look for SCA events, because the chartered purpose of the group was supposed to be Creative. I just want to make sure my students know that tassels are no more historically accurate than chain mail bikinis.

Actually, I got quite offended once when I was asked to dance at an SCA event and was told that my gallibiya-like caftan and handmade coin belt (from Cat's Paw, no less!) would NOT be acceptable attire, but a choli top and salwar would be. ???? This is the kind of willful ignorance that is prevalent in the SCA in SOME areas (but not all.)

I'm not really clear on the difference between the SCA scene and the Renn Faire scene. I know the (very few) Renn faires I've been to have pretty strict rules about what the performers can and can't do, and how they must act. And NONE of the Renn Faire dance performers I've seen in the Midwest have performed in bikini tops and animal skins.
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