Dancing with Zills... - Page 4

Daimona · 01-11-2010, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by walladah

(or worse, practicing something like wooden clap things) will never permit the zill player to accomodate the high tune sound of zills and their echo!

For me, practicing zills as they are, though, is something like killing my ears.

Of course the wooden clappers (or buttons or muted zills) can't replace ordinary zills, but if you know how to play the zills and are aware of the certain sounds you can't replace, you will know how to practice the clappers to get that sound on the zills.
After all, they are still a useful tool for practicing rhythms and patterns without going mad..

Whenever I have to practice the real thing, I make sure nobody is around AND I use ear plugs.

onela · 01-17-2010, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Daimona

Of course the wooden clappers (or buttons or muted zills) can't replace ordinary zills, but if you know how to play the zills and are aware of the certain sounds you can't replace, you will know how to practice the clappers to get that sound on the zills.
After all, they are still a useful tool for practicing rhythms and patterns without going mad..

Whenever I have to practice the real thing, I make sure nobody is around AND I use ear plugs.

Do you use musician's earplugs, or those neon foam-things that people wear when watching air shows?

Daimona · 01-17-2010, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by onela

Do you use musician's earplugs, or those neon foam-things that people wear when watching air shows?

I use whatever earplugs I have available and are easily accessible in stores etc, in other words mostly foam earplugs.

Lielle · 01-19-2010, 05:43 PM

I've always loved dances where zills are used! But the main thing, in my opinion, is to use them properly. I mean, it won't do if you play zills during the whole dance. The first two minutes of it are OK, it's interesting and unexpected for the audience, but then if the dance lasts 5 minutes, people will become tired and bored! Zills are a loud instrument indeed, we shouldn't use it too much.

As for me, I like this dance with zills - Oriental Tango (a well-known Russian ensemble - "ORIENTAL")

YouTube - Oriental Tango, YANA and her Oriental Dance Ensemble

They don't play zills all the time, but only where they need to emphasize the music and movements.
The style is not classical bellydance but it's even more interesting, isn't it?

Aziyade · 01-19-2010, 06:00 PM

Lielle, I think your link is bad -- it tells me it's a malformed url.

sounds painful! LOL

Lielle · 02-01-2010, 04:17 PM

Now the link works - you can see it!

YouTube - Oriental Tango, YANA and her Oriental Dance Ensemble

Evie · 03-02-2010, 01:07 AM

Lots of good ideas for for makeshift quieter zills for practicing. I'll add one more to the list. Baby jar lids. Poke holes in the top and put twist ties through them.

*Nila* · 03-03-2011, 05:06 PM

Hello everybody, I just started with learning how to play zills, and I really enjoy it :-) I never played any musical instrument, so I thought it will be very difficult for me, but I realized it´s not so bad as I thought :-) I have to buy new zills for sure, these ones I have are useless, but I continue learning anyway...Soo, I wanted to ask....I have 2 instructional dvds, one is Killer Ziller by Michelle Joyce and the second is Bellydance with zills with Elsa. Elsa is using switching hands, like with triples she does RLR LRL RLR LRL. And Michelle is using one leading hand, like RLR RLR RLR RLR. I would like to ask what style do you think is better, or which one do you prefer? :-)
Personally I like the Elsa´s one more, it seems easier for me now..
Well, zills are still quite mystery for me, so I would appreciate yours opinions and thoughts:-)

And sorry if there are posts about this subject already, I didn´t find them...:-)

Greek Bonfire · 03-03-2011, 05:23 PM

I play zills occasionally. And one day I will play more sophisticated rhythms but for now I just use them to accent certain parts of a routine. I love them and how they work in a song; however, I am not big on using zills or props for that matter because I just prefer to dance "alone."

Reen.Blom · 03-03-2011, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Lydia

i loooove to play zills !!!!! never perform without them...nobody ever teach me how to play ...i just play....even my musicians ask me to play when i dont dance like after the show....i teach zills aswell......its a must for me,if i dont have them on stage i fee a big part is missing..

I swear you have them in your handbag at all times... LOL!!!

01-19-2010, 05:43 PM	#34
Lielle Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 7	I've always loved dances where zills are used! But the main thing, in my opinion, is to use them properly. I mean, it won't do if you play zills during the whole dance. The first two minutes of it are OK, it's interesting and unexpected for the audience, but then if the dance lasts 5 minutes, people will become tired and bored! Zills are a loud instrument indeed, we shouldn't use it too much. As for me, I like this dance with zills - Oriental Tango (a well-known Russian ensemble - "ORIENTAL") YouTube - Oriental Tango, YANA and her Oriental Dance Ensemble They don't play zills all the time, but only where they need to emphasize the music and movements. The style is not classical bellydance but it's even more interesting, isn't it? Last edited by Lielle; 02-01-2010 at 04:15 PM.

03-03-2011, 05:23 PM	#39
Greek Bonfire V.I.P. Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Chitown, USA Posts: 1,948	I play zills occasionally. And one day I will play more sophisticated rhythms but for now I just use them to accent certain parts of a routine. I love them and how they work in a song; however, I am not big on using zills or props for that matter because I just prefer to dance "alone." __________________ Fotia-The Greek Bonfire (www.fotia-thegreekbonfire.com)

01-19-2010, 06:00 PM	#35
Aziyade Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Cornfields of Evansville Indiana. Posts: 2,443	Lielle, I think your link is bad -- it tells me it's a malformed url. sounds painful! LOL

02-01-2010, 04:17 PM	#36
Lielle Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 7	Now the link works - you can see it! YouTube - Oriental Tango, YANA and her Oriental Dance Ensemble

03-02-2010, 01:07 AM	#37
Evie Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 22	Lots of good ideas for for makeshift quieter zills for practicing. I'll add one more to the list. Baby jar lids. Poke holes in the top and put twist ties through them.

03-03-2011, 05:06 PM	#38
Nila Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Czech republic Posts: 40	Hello everybody, I just started with learning how to play zills, and I really enjoy it :-) I never played any musical instrument, so I thought it will be very difficult for me, but I realized it´s not so bad as I thought :-) I have to buy new zills for sure, these ones I have are useless, but I continue learning anyway...Soo, I wanted to ask....I have 2 instructional dvds, one is Killer Ziller by Michelle Joyce and the second is Bellydance with zills with Elsa. Elsa is using switching hands, like with triples she does RLR LRL RLR LRL. And Michelle is using one leading hand, like RLR RLR RLR RLR. I would like to ask what style do you think is better, or which one do you prefer? :-) Personally I like the Elsa´s one more, it seems easier for me now.. Well, zills are still quite mystery for me, so I would appreciate yours opinions and thoughts:-) And sorry if there are posts about this subject already, I didn´t find them...:-)