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Old 10-23-2007, 04:29 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Aziyade, there is brilliance blossoming in the cornfields of Indiana!
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Old 10-23-2007, 05:58 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Oh poor Azeeza, you are just TOO NICE!

Maybe it's that fewer people have to make their own clothes these days, so they don't realise the time and effort involved. Costuming other people is a big responsibility and you shouldn't be expected to take it on as a sort of extended favour just because you are nice and like making your own.

Aziyade's advice, as ever, ROCKS!

IMO what's important here is to focus on what YOU want to do with your dancing, which is an entirely separate matter to what your teacher and classmates might want of you. Favours doing, costumes making, lends of DVDs etc because they can't/won't do things for themselves.... all that is THEIR problem. If they want your help it's got to be on your terms, because they clearly have very little idea of what it costs you in time and effort. Don't allow other people to spoil something you enjoy (see, there's MY Inner Bitch, snarling away like a rottweiler in the corner of my soul marked belly dance )

Big hugs, make them get their needles and CDs out and help

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Old 10-23-2007, 07:05 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Azeeza -- as someone who has to fend off people who think a woman who works at home without children is fair game for all kinds of time-sucking activities --what everyone said, BIG TIME!

Do it today, before you have time to dither about whether you're still a nice person. THIS IS NOT THE ISSUE, keep telling yourself that.
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Old 10-23-2007, 07:09 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I hope you sort that out Sweety pie!

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Old 10-23-2007, 07:49 PM   #15 (permalink)
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YEP ... I love Shanazel's and Aniseteph's answers !! "I simply can't" and "let them get their own needles out" !!

Lydia you are way tooooo niiiiiicceee !! :-) But I feel that in your words, you glow of niceness, I don't think I could live with that ... lol, I have ogra tattooded on my forehead !!

Kharmine as always has a sound advice .. "do it today, before you have time to dither about wether you're still a nice person" lol, get it out of the way then, from now on "I simply can't" !!! will follow from then on ..

:-) and of cause "we all hope you've sorted through how you're feeling by now and pulled yourself together" and as Reen.Blom would say *hugs* to you from us :-)
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Old 10-24-2007, 08:10 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Dear Azeeza,

I wish you the strength to pull through this horrible time. You know, the good thing about stressy times is that one day they will be behind you. I often find myself in a similar situation as yours, and all you have to do when you are in this situation is to try to make your best and live it through. And learn your lesson, to make sure there will be less of such situations.

All the advice has been great, starting with learning to say no. It is better to say no and have a clear situation in the beginning, than stress both parties out if you can't manage helping them on time.

Getting a reward for your efforts is also fair. Of course, every now and then we help a friend out when they need it just out of our good will. But if it starts taking up a huge part of your life, you better get compensated.

Hold on there, and don't be too hard on yourself!

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Old 10-24-2007, 08:31 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Unlike Janaki, who gives very good advice, by the way, I don't believe in making excuses. Simply saying, "I don't think so" or "I'm sorry, I can't" is plenty. If someone asks why, repeating, "I simply can't" will eventually wear them down and get across the message of NO in a polite non-aggressive way.

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You are absolutely right Shanazel!!! You don't need to explian or give a reason. But softies like Azeeza , it is a good way to start saying no by giving a simple reason. Reason is different from making excuses!!!! I learned this from my partenr. I am solid and I can stand firm and say no, but my dancing partner never says no. I have been helping her for years. She is better now and can say "no' but she always gives a reason for it. She told me that she feels better saying no by giving a reason for it. I thought it may work for Azeeza!!!!
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Old 10-24-2007, 11:07 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Dear Azeeza

You have my sympathies! You have been given some really great advice by the others on this forum, so hopefully you can prevent yourself getting into this position again :-) Hugs to you in the meantime!

Re the dresses, you have to ask your troupe and fellow dancers just how important it is to have these particular desses ready for the hafla? Is there any alternative costuming that could be used, and if not, could the ladies without costumes defer their performance until a more suitable time? If the performance is for only one item, then maybe it could be saved for your next hafla, in which case the other students who need the DVD will know the choreography by then as well? I also like the idea of getting the ladies who require the desses to help you in your task, even if it is just making your coffee, or cutting off the sewing threads when you are finished

Regarding the student who cannot see your DVD, call her, apologise that you are unable to burn another disc for her, and suggest that she get together with another student with the DVD to practice for the hafla, if she wants to get it right, she will make the appropriate arrangements in good time.

Above all, don't let your husband stay mad at you, enjoy and cherish your family as they also support you in your hobby, and provide the necessary balance in your life.

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Old 10-24-2007, 01:31 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Welcome to my OLD life !!!
2 months now I decided to use the NO word in my vocabulary and goes wow !!!
I still say more yes than needed but the NO is a miracle.
Follow the advices the ladies gave you, dont have more to say, just hugs and know how you are feeling, hey after all we have to be a bit of bellydance bitches also lol

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Old 10-24-2007, 05:05 PM   #20 (permalink)
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WoW Azeeza !... In this world u barely find people that are much nice I know its hard to say "no" to someone... I have been in this position At a time.. When i had arguments with my husband and with my work..I don't know what`s going to be you decision but i Surely can share mine... I gave my husband time and with giving him time.. we never argued or had any fight .. and apart from work.. when I had people telling me they needed me to make stuff etc etc.. I always said
"no problem" But at the end i was stuck with time and couldn't get stuff done..
So An advice from my side.. if u feel so its helpful then u can give you husband time this way you won`t have fights.. because me and my husband had deep fights which lead to serious things.. You can just tell your classmates that you don't find the time.. if you feel u can manage it then sure go ahead.. but if u know that u wont be able to manage their work with the time along.. then simply tell them " no" i sure they will understand it ..
P.S - There are always ups and downs in life.. and u always have to dig the path .. u seem like a brave girl I'm sure you manage out of it.. Wish u good luck!!! ( I Hope i helped you in some way)

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