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Location: central coast, California
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ok... I think (one!!) of my questions will be...
tell us about your last show... did it (as I imagine?!?!) contain dances from different regions??? how did you... *decide on costume design (what are your methods of research?!) &.... do you pick out a few & let the group decide... or do you just tell em??? *who pays for who makes who keeps the costumes?? in smaller shows... how do you account for costuming inaccuracies?!? (as in there is NO budget for (whatever) so we will be wearing (whatever) even though they do not quite mesh?)...... gosh.. have SOOOO many more ???? but am at work... so all thought is done in "spurts"!!!!! sure I will have more ??? later!!! whhheeeeee soooo glad you have agreed to a costume thread... almost as fun as actually dancing!!! |
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Pacific Northwest USA
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Dear Belly_dancer,
Great questions!! Responses below in context. Quote:
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only had time to skim your replies... as I am SUPPOSED to be getting ready to go dance myself..... cannot wait til I get to read word by word.... LOVE this stuff.... do you have PHOTOS????? (as to see if the pictures in my head match reality????)....
ooohhh or any video???? thanks!!! I feel inspired all of the sudden!!!! (REALLY THANK YOU it has been TOO long!!!) ![]() ooohhh I have (somewhere "safe"!?!?) a really old piece of assuit.... falling apart... any tips on restoration??? as I would love to wear it.... if I recall, it has a huge hole almost dead center so I could stick my head thru & wear as a (short) tunic w/ a sash perhaps over "harem" pants?!?!.. * would that (pants) be appropriate (& what underneath... should I do a "nude" color or an obvious black bra??? (have seen both... wonder which would be more "correct") *best way to reinforce the rest of the fabric... (really weak!) thanks again!!!!! eeekkk more ?? but MUST go... keep my "night" job!!!!! |
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Pacific Northwest USA
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Dear Belly_dancer,
I should be getting some photos from a friend. I will try to figure out how to email them to you if I can. Re the old assuit. I am not an expert on restoring fabrics, but if it is in really bad shape and you still want to wear it, back it with another fabric and tack it to that fabric to give it support from beneath it. If it is in really bad shape, I would recommend that you do not wear it, in all honesty. The old pieces are such treasures. My old assuit is from the 1920s. It was a French Flapper dress. It is in really good condition for its age. Dear Shanazel, It is not that I don't like fringe or prefer not to use it. I do, and I have costumes with fringe and also make fringe stuff for other people. I hand mix the beads and create some really pretty fringes. However, I think many dancers over use it. They make it too long for enhancing movement, such as many of those 1980s costumes with thick fringe to the knees, which often dragged the dancer around and camoflauged movement instead of showing it. Then there are the people who add a row of fringe around the bottom of their bras and look like they are barrel shaped because they have no waistline in that look!! Some people tend to make it too thick sometimes, and it makes the dancer look sort of bunchy and you see glops of fringe that hide movement. There seem to be a ton of mistakes that can be made when building a belly dance costume and using fringe. I have made many of them myself and now I feel that I have made enough mistakes to see the value of fringe as an enhancement to movement rather than an end in itself. I adore fringe, but I think it has to be used in the right way to create a costume that compliments movement. It should be about the dance, and not so much about the costume was my point. Costume should be used to enhance the dance.So many people forget the purpose of the costume and the dance gets lost in the fringe, so to speak! Regards, A'isha |
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First, sword dance is a western invention when it is used by women in context of a belly dance show. This means you can wear whatever you want. My very favorite thing that I have ever seen done was by a woman in the second dance company I belonged to. She did her theatrical sword dance dressed as a Tuareg male!! I would choose my music first then decide what to wear. Are you using a modern piece? or one of those mysterious sounding pieces? or something very traditional? That would set the tone for how you want to costume the dance and what kind of feeling you are trying to create. For example, let's say you are choosing one of those very mysterious gothic industrial pieces to dance to. How about the glitzy rag look? This might be in gun-metal greys and occasional bright red accents, for both texture and contrast, as well as giving the thing a surprisingly jaunty look. A dress with the stomach part cut away jaggedly instead of merely removed, the skirt sewn in strips with strips sewn to strips, not too full making sure the ends are cut at a diagonal. Have one sleeve, and one arm that is simply wrapped in rags with little pieces loose here and there. Instead of a regular head wrap, use rags tied into your hair and cover a yarmulke style cap with rags, too, No jewelry except for a choker with one very large stone in it, in a very contrasting feel, like bright yellow or livid blue, with the choker part a rag, of course. I have wanted to create this costume for for several years now, but have never had the opportunity to discuss it. The typical Rachel Brice look look is getting so tired. Regards, A'isha . |
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Join Date: Jul 2006
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Wow! Thanks for the help!
My teacher wants me to do a sword dance, but we are not Tribal or fusion dancers, so I didn't know what sort of costuming was appropriate for sword dance. My thinking was Tribal, but she showed me an expression of disagreement. She is a restaurant dancer and uses a sword, but wears a bedlah. I've never danced in a restaurant professionally and I thought a bedlah seemed a little over dressed. Now I know I have options! Thanks so much! Azeeza |
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If the sword dance you will be performing is your ONLY dance, then I agree w/the poster who said to pick your costume regarding your musical choice... ethereal? techno? goth? traditional? etc etc etc... if it is part of a set, then you have to take into consideration the REST of the dances/music/etc, as well..... PLUS for me.... it is important to think about the movements as well.... are you dropping to the floor???? (in a restaurant??? no pale colors... plus prints work better at hiding little spots/etc)... are you "rolling" around on the floor??? then avoid long fringe.. plus the cool "rag" idea could turn into a tangle on the floor depending on the moves... (not to mention a split skirt with slits that got "misplaced !!!!!)... oooh... & any little loops on the bottom of a skirt (yep I have experience here!!! a skirt w/ beaded trim in the form of little loops all around the hem......) ... not fun to try & stand back up & find one of your toes caught in a loop!@!!!....oooh & do not even TRY floor work in a tight mermaid style skirt.... & anklets are killer tooo......( & skirts w/ heavy beading... killer on the tops of feet if caught btwn your feet & the floor.... not to mention killer on the bead work!!!) damn... I am missing out on sooo many cool wardrobe options..... on the off chance I may want to drop to the floor at any minute!!!!! ![]() |
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