Head Covering Advice Needed

Azeeza · 09-12-2007, 02:47 PM

Is is OK to make an Islamic head covering (tube design) to wear under a shamadan to protect the hair from potential drips from wax?

I've seen a scarf like covering on a dancer doing a shamadan dance, but I like the tube design better because I won't need quite so much fabric and it seems easier to work with when the time comes to cover the hair.

Would I be breaking any religious rules by using the tube design rather than the triangle scarf design for a shamadan dance?

Thanks in advance,

Azeeza

Latifa · 09-12-2007, 04:54 PM

Azeeza, I think a theatrical-looking scarf would be better. The whole idea of a dancer wearing Islamic-style head covering would look a little odd, like a contradiction in terms. This is my opinion...

There was a dancer at the opening gala of Ahlan wa Sahlan this year who started her show muhagaba (wearing a veil that was wrapped like a headscarf). It did not go over well, and I think the musicians were a little freaked out. I know at our table, the general reaction was "WTF???"

Azeeza · 09-12-2007, 08:59 PM

Hi Latifa:

I went ahead and made the tube style hair cover and I don't think anyone is going to know it's made from an Islamic head cover pattern (hopefully).

The material is super shiny and it will be covered by a shamadan. The only part that is showing is the back and it looks like a long tube (down to mid back).

It's not one that goes around the front of the face or neck. It looks like a super sized tube sock without the foot part. No one will see the band around the tube covering the hair along the hair line either.

Azeeza

PS Thank you for your thoughts and experience. It did make me think about my hair protection creation.

Latifa · 09-12-2007, 10:06 PM

Aha! When you mentioned an Islamic-style head covering, I was picturing hijab. Sorry to jump to the conclusion!!

Azeeza · 09-12-2007, 10:54 PM

Oh my gosh, Latifa:

It is not your fault. I didn't make myself clear. Let me see if I can post what the cover looks like. I might still be in trouble . Let me know what you think.

Azeeza

PS Mine is single fold, a bright shiny color and the outside of the material shows all the way down and covers my hair, plus there are no raw edges. It's the second one only mine is much, much longer.

Shanazel · 09-13-2007, 03:46 PM

I have seen similar patterns used to make winter hats in this country- would not have occurred to me to think of the pattern as ethnic. I have also seen tubes of fabric put around the neck and pulled up over the ears and top of the head for warmth. However, I doubt you are going to make your head covering of polar fleece

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Azeeza · 09-13-2007, 04:51 PM

Shanazel:

You never cease to crack me up! However, you never know about the polar fleece and belly dance, now do you? I could start a trend!

I found the pattern on a head cover website and the person who posted the diagram for the pattern had is listed under "Islamic Head Covers". Although, I think technically it's an "under scarf head cover".

Hopefully, I won't be offending anyone who might recognize my "under shamadan head cover". In all reality, I do look like a Nun in it. But, with all the makeup, dress and shamadan, I'm sure I won't look quite so holy .

:-),

Azeeza

PS Shanazel, sending you a PM ;-)

adiemus · 09-13-2007, 07:14 PM

I've never ever thought nun and bellydancer in the same breath before...!

Azeeza · 09-13-2007, 07:49 PM

OK, perhaps not a good analogy, but I DO look like a Nun without the habit :-). Plus, I probaby shouldn't have used the word "holy". "Wholly" might have been better?

Why do we have such similarities in words: holy, wholly, and why does a Nun wear a "habit" and why does an Islamic under scarf look like a Nun's underscarf?

Sheesh, I'm getting all pooped out just thinking about it .

Azeeza

Shanazel · 09-14-2007, 02:55 PM

As a volunteer for Literacy Volunteers, I taught English as a second language. Whenever faced with linguistic oddities, the best I could do was shrug, smile, and say, "It's English!" Try explaining to someone without a good grasp of the language the difference between "the right to bear arms" as in weapons, "the right to bear arms" as it bears that growl, and "the right to bare arms" as in no sleeves! I love English and its unashamed adaptation of whatever useful foreign terms comes its way!

09-12-2007, 02:47 PM	#1 (permalink)
Azeeza Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 831	Head Covering Advice Needed Is is OK to make an Islamic head covering (tube design) to wear under a shamadan to protect the hair from potential drips from wax? I've seen a scarf like covering on a dancer doing a shamadan dance, but I like the tube design better because I won't need quite so much fabric and it seems easier to work with when the time comes to cover the hair. Would I be breaking any religious rules by using the tube design rather than the triangle scarf design for a shamadan dance? Thanks in advance, Azeeza

09-12-2007, 04:54 PM	#2 (permalink)
Latifa Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Severna Park, MD Posts: 42	Azeeza, I think a theatrical-looking scarf would be better. The whole idea of a dancer wearing Islamic-style head covering would look a little odd, like a contradiction in terms. This is my opinion... There was a dancer at the opening gala of Ahlan wa Sahlan this year who started her show muhagaba (wearing a veil that was wrapped like a headscarf). It did not go over well, and I think the musicians were a little freaked out. I know at our table, the general reaction was "WTF???" __________________ Latifa's School of Middle Eastern Dance www.bintbeled.com

09-12-2007, 08:59 PM	#3 (permalink)
Azeeza Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 831	Hi Latifa: I went ahead and made the tube style hair cover and I don't think anyone is going to know it's made from an Islamic head cover pattern (hopefully). The material is super shiny and it will be covered by a shamadan. The only part that is showing is the back and it looks like a long tube (down to mid back). It's not one that goes around the front of the face or neck. It looks like a super sized tube sock without the foot part. No one will see the band around the tube covering the hair along the hair line either. Azeeza PS Thank you for your thoughts and experience. It did make me think about my hair protection creation. Last edited by Azeeza; 09-12-2007 at 09:44 PM.

09-12-2007, 10:06 PM	#4 (permalink)
Latifa Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Severna Park, MD Posts: 42	Aha! When you mentioned an Islamic-style head covering, I was picturing hijab. Sorry to jump to the conclusion!! __________________ Latifa's School of Middle Eastern Dance www.bintbeled.com

09-12-2007, 10:54 PM	#5 (permalink)
Azeeza Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 831	Oh my gosh, Latifa: It is not your fault. I didn't make myself clear. Let me see if I can post what the cover looks like. I might still be in trouble . Let me know what you think. Azeeza PS Mine is single fold, a bright shiny color and the outside of the material shows all the way down and covers my hair, plus there are no raw edges. It's the second one only mine is much, much longer. Attached Thumbnails

09-13-2007, 03:46 PM	#6 (permalink)
Shanazel Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Rocky Mountains USA Posts: 4,654	I have seen similar patterns used to make winter hats in this country- would not have occurred to me to think of the pattern as ethnic. I have also seen tubes of fabric put around the neck and pulled up over the ears and top of the head for warmth. However, I doubt you are going to make your head covering of polar fleece.

09-13-2007, 04:51 PM	#7 (permalink)
Azeeza Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 831	Shanazel: You never cease to crack me up! However, you never know about the polar fleece and belly dance, now do you? I could start a trend! I found the pattern on a head cover website and the person who posted the diagram for the pattern had is listed under "Islamic Head Covers". Although, I think technically it's an "under scarf head cover". Hopefully, I won't be offending anyone who might recognize my "under shamadan head cover". In all reality, I do look like a Nun in it. But, with all the makeup, dress and shamadan, I'm sure I won't look quite so holy . :-), Azeeza PS Shanazel, sending you a PM ;-)

09-13-2007, 07:14 PM	#8 (permalink)
adiemus Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Christchurch, New Zealand Posts: 977	I've never ever thought nun and bellydancer in the same breath before...! __________________ He wahine, he taonga- Every woman is a treasure(Maori proverb)

09-13-2007, 07:49 PM	#9 (permalink)
Azeeza Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 831	OK, perhaps not a good analogy, but I DO look like a Nun without the habit :-). Plus, I probaby shouldn't have used the word "holy". "Wholly" might have been better? Why do we have such similarities in words: holy, wholly, and why does a Nun wear a "habit" and why does an Islamic under scarf look like a Nun's underscarf? Sheesh, I'm getting all pooped out just thinking about it . Azeeza

09-14-2007, 02:55 PM	#10 (permalink)
Shanazel Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Rocky Mountains USA Posts: 4,654	As a volunteer for Literacy Volunteers, I taught English as a second language. Whenever faced with linguistic oddities, the best I could do was shrug, smile, and say, "It's English!" Try explaining to someone without a good grasp of the language the difference between "the right to bear arms" as in weapons, "the right to bear arms" as it bears that growl, and "the right to bare arms" as in no sleeves! I love English and its unashamed adaptation of whatever useful foreign terms comes its way!