rate a teacher - Page 2

Marya · 07-23-2008, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by lizaj

It's a terrible idea. Open to abuse by those hell bent on mischief.
Students rate their teachers by staying or going. They are also perfectly capable of making suggestions and complaining.
And one teacher may suit a student and another not like his/her approach.
Just as those who found belly dance is a mistake for them, they will either feel at home with a teacher or not.
I do wish students and employers would enquire as to the "qualifications" ( be they paper or based on long experience) and it would be useful if this were listed somewhere astudent could check on. The teacher, teacher has studied with and the nature of those studies. The styles taught etc. Teacher listings could be fuller...rating teacher mmmm...

I tend to agree with this opening a can of worms to those hell bent on mischief. I was appalled to learn that a friend of mine who teaches at a university and has a PhD in Business is rated by students and this rating is used in determining whether she will get tenure or not. She told me of a few students who didn't like her curriculum and rating her poorly, only to tell her a year or two later that she was right. too late for her.

Marya

Salome · 07-23-2008, 09:14 PM

Ok so noted that, so far, folks poo poo the idea.

And with lot's of valid points. But I have to admit though that the idea is kind of growing on me. Sure it is vulnerable to misuse and subjective... but am I being naive in thinking that the majority of people are not evil doers out to do mischief? For example, the reputation system here on the forum seems to work well- not exactly the same thing since we are talking opinions - but the system itself is set up so that one person or a group cannot unfairly tear someone down or build them up...

Eshta · 07-23-2008, 10:10 PM

We would need someone to volunteer to go around as a full-time teacher critic giving teachers michelin stars

I'll go!!!!!

I can't think of a quick & practical way of making this work, although love the idea of it in abstract. But people go to belly dance classes for so many reasons. I remember being hugely frustrated at one class where we had to stop whenever we started to break a sweat, and I mean that literally. Literally, someone in the class would say 'Can we take a break, I'm starting to sweat?' and then there would be a 5 minute natter. They all came dressed up in all sorts of hafla wear but didn't want to sweat!

Could you maybe fill in a quick tickbox thing that had:
-years teaching
-years performing
-main focus: technique, social, interpretation, props
- describe your classes in three words 'sexy, erotic, non-sweaty' (

not going to this class!)

da Sage · 07-24-2008, 02:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eshta

Could you maybe fill in a quick tickbox thing that had:
-years teaching
-years performing
-main focus: technique, social, interpretation, props
- describe your classes in three words 'sexy, erotic, non-sweaty' (

not going to this class!)

Don't forget years of study. People make a big deal out of years teaching and performing, but completely forget the base--years of study, and with whom.

Shanazel · 07-24-2008, 04:36 AM

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but am I being naive in thinking that the majority of people are not evil doers out to do mischief?

No, you are not naive to think this. You are perhaps underestimating the power of a vocal and vicious few. The vast majority of people also do not commit arson, grand theft or barratry, but the few who do bring a lot of misery to their innocent victims.

If you give teachers a choice as to whether or not they wished to be included in this potential free for all, it might be more palatable.

Caroline_afifi · 07-24-2008, 10:50 AM

They say World War 3 will be the war of water...the fight over oil..weapons of mass destruction...

No! it will be the rating of teachers... dont even go there!

jenc · 07-24-2008, 11:11 AM

I would like more info - and perhaps a regular request to update or else be removed. I have PMd Salome about a teacher that appears to have disappeared - but is still listed. Also another teacher that I know states that she teaches Raqs Sharki (amongst other things) but I stopprd going as it was very strenuous Tribal Fusion.
So I would like to know how long dancing, how long teaching (some of the other sites do list this. I would also like teachers to be requested to list only those styles that they teach SEPARATELY (unless they state that their dance is a mixture of...)
PS just looked again and the teacher that disappeared states that she teaches Bellydance, Raqs Sharki, Turkish, Egyptian.
I understood when she was around that she had been dancing for only 2 years. maybe that is why she doesn't appear to know that Raqs Sharki is Egyptian.

jenc · 07-24-2008, 11:17 AM

Maybe we could all check out local teachers and PM Salome to enquire if we don't think the description fits!!

Caroline_afifi · 07-24-2008, 12:33 PM

Yes, I think description is more important than rating. This will help people alot where there are various teachers in one area.

I think it would be nice for teachers to say what they do and dont dont and perhaps a biog?

da Sage · 07-24-2008, 01:57 PM

Most of the teachers I know spend their time dancing, teaching, and planning classes and events...

I would personally be against any sort of rating system that requires a teacher to check her online feedback regularly, in order to protect her position.

EDIT: The last thing we need is more online drama draining energy from our art.

07-23-2008, 09:14 PM	#12 (permalink)
Salome Super Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Corvallis, Oregon, USA Posts: 1,728	Ok so noted that, so far, folks poo poo the idea. And with lot's of valid points. But I have to admit though that the idea is kind of growing on me. Sure it is vulnerable to misuse and subjective... but am I being naive in thinking that the majority of people are not evil doers out to do mischief? For example, the reputation system here on the forum seems to work well- not exactly the same thing since we are talking opinions - but the system itself is set up so that one person or a group cannot unfairly tear someone down or build them up... Last edited by Salome; 07-23-2008 at 10:53 PM.

07-23-2008, 10:10 PM	#13 (permalink)
Eshta Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: London, England Posts: 312	We would need someone to volunteer to go around as a full-time teacher critic giving teachers michelin stars I'll go!!!!! I can't think of a quick & practical way of making this work, although love the idea of it in abstract. But people go to belly dance classes for so many reasons. I remember being hugely frustrated at one class where we had to stop whenever we started to break a sweat, and I mean that literally. Literally, someone in the class would say 'Can we take a break, I'm starting to sweat?' and then there would be a 5 minute natter. They all came dressed up in all sorts of hafla wear but didn't want to sweat! Could you maybe fill in a quick tickbox thing that had: -years teaching -years performing -main focus: technique, social, interpretation, props - describe your classes in three words 'sexy, erotic, non-sweaty' (not going to this class!) __________________ Saqarah - London's monthly Belly Dance Hafla!

07-24-2008, 11:11 AM	#17 (permalink)
jenc Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Colchester UK Posts: 839	I would like more info - and perhaps a regular request to update or else be removed. I have PMd Salome about a teacher that appears to have disappeared - but is still listed. Also another teacher that I know states that she teaches Raqs Sharki (amongst other things) but I stopprd going as it was very strenuous Tribal Fusion. So I would like to know how long dancing, how long teaching (some of the other sites do list this. I would also like teachers to be requested to list only those styles that they teach SEPARATELY (unless they state that their dance is a mixture of...) PS just looked again and the teacher that disappeared states that she teaches Bellydance, Raqs Sharki, Turkish, Egyptian. I understood when she was around that she had been dancing for only 2 years. maybe that is why she doesn't appear to know that Raqs Sharki is Egyptian. Last edited by jenc; 07-24-2008 at 11:15 AM.

07-24-2008, 10:50 AM	#16 (permalink)
Caroline_afifi V.I.P. Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Liverpool UK Posts: 1,034	They say World War 3 will be the war of water...the fight over oil..weapons of mass destruction... No! it will be the rating of teachers... dont even go there!

07-24-2008, 11:17 AM	#18 (permalink)
jenc Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Colchester UK Posts: 839	Maybe we could all check out local teachers and PM Salome to enquire if we don't think the description fits!!

07-24-2008, 12:33 PM	#19 (permalink)
Caroline_afifi V.I.P. Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Liverpool UK Posts: 1,034	Yes, I think description is more important than rating. This will help people alot where there are various teachers in one area. I think it would be nice for teachers to say what they do and dont dont and perhaps a biog?

07-24-2008, 01:57 PM	#20 (permalink)
da Sage V.I.P. Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: MN Posts: 1,031	Most of the teachers I know spend their time dancing, teaching, and planning classes and events... I would personally be against any sort of rating system that requires a teacher to check her online feedback regularly, in order to protect her position. EDIT: The last thing we need is more online drama draining energy from our art.