Need advice for older dancer makeup restaurant

dreamkitaro · 05-22-2009, 05:37 PM

Hi,
I am a dancer in my 40s, have little bit of wrinkles, and hollows under eyes. If I wear too dark, or too much make-up looks horrible. Skin tone is unfortunately blotchy. What advice on colors for eyes and eye makeup techniques, does and do nots for doing eye makeup for restaurant? For stage?
How about color for lips?
Have dark brown hair and brown eyes. Thanks so much

Kharmine · 05-22-2009, 06:44 PM

Are you fair-skinned? Olive? Tanned?

I did makeup for the theater -- indoor and outdoor -- and I'd say it depends on the lighting and your distance from the audience. The brighter the lights and greater the distance from the audience, the stronger your makeup can be (ballerinas in full rig up close look rather grotesque!)

Have you checked out the lighting and performance areas in the places where you're going to perform?

dreamkitaro · 05-22-2009, 06:53 PM

Hi,
I am medium skin, little on the olive side.
For restaurant it will be fairly dark and I will be dancing up close to each member of audience.
When I dance stage, lighting is much brighter and farther from audience.
Thanks !

shiradotnet · 05-22-2009, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by dreamkitaro

Hi,
What advice on colors for eyes and eye makeup techniques, does and do nots for doing eye makeup for restaurant? For stage?
How about color for lips?
Have dark brown hair and brown eyes. Thanks so much

I suggest a video by a San Diego dancer named Meleah called Face It! Makeup Tips for the Belly Dancer. There's a full-length review of it on my web site at Face It - Makeup Techniques for the Belly Dancer: A Video Review By Shira

Mosaic · 05-23-2009, 01:35 AM

I find mineral makeup the best, as it doesn't clog in any lines, just kind of smooths them out and most mineral brands have concealer minerals or veils and they really do help to smooth out any blemishes. Also a huge plus for me, i don't sweat under mineral makeup. I had huge problems with ordinary makeup - within 5 mins of applying my face would begin to sweat. it was awful. ( I am 60 and the mineral makeup really gives a much more youthful appearance)
~Mosaic

Kharmine · 05-23-2009, 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Mosaic

I find mineral makeup the best, as it doesn't clog in any lines, just kind of smooths them out and most mineral brands have concealer minerals or veils and they really do help to smooth out any blemishes. Also a huge plus for me, i don't sweat under mineral makeup. I had huge problems with ordinary makeup - within 5 mins of applying my face would begin to sweat. it was awful. ( I am 60 and the mineral makeup really gives a much more youthful appearance)
~Mosaic

Aw gee, I wish I could like it -- but in an arid climate it makes my dryish skin look horrible! One try was all it took.

Well, there ya go, besides lighting and distance you have to consider climate and skin tone/type.

maria_harlequin · 05-23-2009, 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Kharmine

I did makeup for the theater -- indoor and outdoor -- and I'd say it depends on the lighting and your distance from the audience. The brighter the lights and greater the distance from the audience, the stronger your makeup can be (ballerinas in full rig up close look rather grotesque!)

Back when I did theater, the first time we came out wearing out makeup the director said, "Right now, all of you look good. That's not right. For the stage, your makeup should look very WRONG."

Mosaic · 05-23-2009, 04:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Kharmine

Aw gee, I wish I could like it -- but in an arid climate it makes my dryish skin look horrible! One try was all it took.

Well, there ya go, besides lighting and distance you have to consider climate and skin tone/type.

I never gave climate a thought, actually. Although I wore it in Egypt which is way drier than Melbourne. But my skin isn't dry. I can see how a powder rather than a liquid would have a drying effect though. A lot of the mineral makeup companies are now bringing out liquid/gel based mineral foundations and clear gels that you mix the powdered minerals into yourself.. I wonder if that would have the same effect on dry skin? I have found the minerals help my skin to 'breathe' and that prevents the yucky sweating.

~Mosaic

Farasha Hanem · 05-23-2009, 07:05 AM

For a while Wal-Mart had a Maybelline promo going on---Maybelline's mineral foundation packaged with matching mineral powder...hold on, let me see if I can find it real quick in my bellydance bag...*goes off to get makeup bag*

AHH! I found it!

"New Maybelline Mineral POWER Natural Perfecting Foundation" and "Mineral POWER Finishing Veil Powder" in Sandy Beige (I have olive skin, too). Mosaic is right---mineral makeup doesn't settle in lines like regular makeup (I'm 48, by the way). I also have Physicians Formula Mineral Tinted Moisturizer with an SPF of 15 which I like to wear for outdoor performances, along with PF's "Circle Rx Circle Control Concealer," and "CoverToxTen50 Wrinkle Therapy Face Powder, all purchased at Wal-Mart.

If the restaurant has low lighting, it will soften your face and make your lines less noticeable, so don't be scared to be heavy-handed with the eye makeup, blush, and lip color. As already pointed out earlier, you'll need the extra "oomph" for performances. If you'll be in close proximity to your audience, go ahead and blend your makeup with good-quality makeup brushes and sponges, just make sure you have plenty of color on your face.

From your description, you sound like a Winter (I'm a big fan of Carolyn Jackson), so your best colors for makeup would be clear, cool colors with blue undertones (as opposed to yellow undertones---they would make you look sallow). Clear reds, pinks, plums, and burgundys for cheeks, lips, and nails would look lovely with your coloring. If your brown eyes are chocolate brown, some of your best eye colors would be cool browns (like cocoa), taupe, deep slate blue, purples, silver, greys, turquois, cool forest greens, and teal. For costuming (yeah, I know, we're talking makeup, but I'm throwing ya a freebie

), clear, deep jewel colors would look gorgeous, such as sapphire blue, ruby red, amethyst purple, and emerald green. Pink, teal, lemon yellow, and turquoise are also good color choices, and dramatic black or white is stunning on a Winter. For jewelry, silver is the best color choice for winter, although I have to admit I own yellow gold jewelry and costumes (fringed bra and belt, and some pieces with gold-colored coins); I just make sure to wear my colors for the rest of my costuming.

My two closest friends in my class are both over 50, I'm close to 50, and one of the ladies in my teacher's troupe is in her 40's. You can be beautiful at any age, and if some people are too busy noticing your lines instead of your graceful dancing, they have way too much time on their hands, anyway.

*hugs!*

lizaj · 05-23-2009, 08:58 AM

The most flattering make-up I can find is a light-reflecting one by Lancome. I am sure the L'Oreal side of the firm will do one also. The make-up artist I had when I did the photo shoot recommended L'Oreal colours for eyes as being gentle and long -staying. I think false eyelashes of the natural kind also help.
I'm in my 60s and tend not to wear a lot of make-up in the day just Clarins Beauty Flash Balm. But at night and when I feel the need I've been very pleased with the Lancome as it doesn't feel over the top. Some older women make the mistake of slapping it in with great gusto and ending up looking like a drag queen. You have, I believe to go for gentle and subtle but polished. We are talking restaurant here so no need to go for theatre "quality" just extra special night out plus little bit of performer -extra.

05-22-2009, 05:37 PM	#1 (permalink)
dreamkitaro Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Philly, PA Posts: 48	Need advice for older dancer makeup restaurant Hi, I am a dancer in my 40s, have little bit of wrinkles, and hollows under eyes. If I wear too dark, or too much make-up looks horrible. Skin tone is unfortunately blotchy. What advice on colors for eyes and eye makeup techniques, does and do nots for doing eye makeup for restaurant? For stage? How about color for lips? Have dark brown hair and brown eyes. Thanks so much

05-22-2009, 06:44 PM	#2 (permalink)
Kharmine V.I.P. Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Foot of the Rocky Mountains Posts: 1,952	Are you fair-skinned? Olive? Tanned? I did makeup for the theater -- indoor and outdoor -- and I'd say it depends on the lighting and your distance from the audience. The brighter the lights and greater the distance from the audience, the stronger your makeup can be (ballerinas in full rig up close look rather grotesque!) Have you checked out the lighting and performance areas in the places where you're going to perform? __________________ What if the hokey pokey is really what it's all about?

05-22-2009, 06:53 PM	#3 (permalink)
dreamkitaro Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Philly, PA Posts: 48	medium skin Hi, I am medium skin, little on the olive side. For restaurant it will be fairly dark and I will be dancing up close to each member of audience. When I dance stage, lighting is much brighter and farther from audience. Thanks !

05-23-2009, 01:35 AM	#5 (permalink)
Mosaic Super Moderator Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Melbourne Australia, but a Kiwi Posts: 2,828	I find mineral makeup the best, as it doesn't clog in any lines, just kind of smooths them out and most mineral brands have concealer minerals or veils and they really do help to smooth out any blemishes. Also a huge plus for me, i don't sweat under mineral makeup. I had huge problems with ordinary makeup - within 5 mins of applying my face would begin to sweat. it was awful. ( I am 60 and the mineral makeup really gives a much more youthful appearance) ~Mosaic __________________ When your soles rest on the floor and you balance your weight on both of them, then you can rest in yourself, you are in your centre. With every step, you renew contact and the connection to the earth, to matter, to Mater the Mother. ~ Rosina Fawzia Al - Rawi

05-23-2009, 07:05 AM	#9 (permalink)
Farasha Hanem Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: In the heartland of the USA Posts: 1,413	For a while Wal-Mart had a Maybelline promo going on---Maybelline's mineral foundation packaged with matching mineral powder...hold on, let me see if I can find it real quick in my bellydance bag...goes off to get makeup bag AHH! I found it! "New Maybelline Mineral POWER Natural Perfecting Foundation" and "Mineral POWER Finishing Veil Powder" in Sandy Beige (I have olive skin, too). Mosaic is right---mineral makeup doesn't settle in lines like regular makeup (I'm 48, by the way). I also have Physicians Formula Mineral Tinted Moisturizer with an SPF of 15 which I like to wear for outdoor performances, along with PF's "Circle Rx Circle Control Concealer," and "CoverToxTen50 Wrinkle Therapy Face Powder, all purchased at Wal-Mart. If the restaurant has low lighting, it will soften your face and make your lines less noticeable, so don't be scared to be heavy-handed with the eye makeup, blush, and lip color. As already pointed out earlier, you'll need the extra "oomph" for performances. If you'll be in close proximity to your audience, go ahead and blend your makeup with good-quality makeup brushes and sponges, just make sure you have plenty of color on your face. From your description, you sound like a Winter (I'm a big fan of Carolyn Jackson), so your best colors for makeup would be clear, cool colors with blue undertones (as opposed to yellow undertones---they would make you look sallow). Clear reds, pinks, plums, and burgundys for cheeks, lips, and nails would look lovely with your coloring. If your brown eyes are chocolate brown, some of your best eye colors would be cool browns (like cocoa), taupe, deep slate blue, purples, silver, greys, turquois, cool forest greens, and teal. For costuming (yeah, I know, we're talking makeup, but I'm throwing ya a freebie ), clear, deep jewel colors would look gorgeous, such as sapphire blue, ruby red, amethyst purple, and emerald green. Pink, teal, lemon yellow, and turquoise are also good color choices, and dramatic black or white is stunning on a Winter. For jewelry, silver is the best color choice for winter, although I have to admit I own yellow gold jewelry and costumes (fringed bra and belt, and some pieces with gold-colored coins); I just make sure to wear my colors for the rest of my costuming. My two closest friends in my class are both over 50, I'm close to 50, and one of the ladies in my teacher's troupe is in her 40's. You can be beautiful at any age, and if some people are too busy noticing your lines instead of your graceful dancing, they have way too much time on their hands, anyway. hugs!

05-23-2009, 08:58 AM	#10 (permalink)
lizaj Moderator Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: UK Posts: 3,603	The most flattering make-up I can find is a light-reflecting one by Lancome. I am sure the L'Oreal side of the firm will do one also. The make-up artist I had when I did the photo shoot recommended L'Oreal colours for eyes as being gentle and long -staying. I think false eyelashes of the natural kind also help. I'm in my 60s and tend not to wear a lot of make-up in the day just Clarins Beauty Flash Balm. But at night and when I feel the need I've been very pleased with the Lancome as it doesn't feel over the top. Some older women make the mistake of slapping it in with great gusto and ending up looking like a drag queen. You have, I believe to go for gentle and subtle but polished. We are talking restaurant here so no need to go for theatre "quality" just extra special night out plus little bit of performer -extra.