Dreams and Sleep - Page 3

Sara · 09-20-2006, 09:23 PM

Heyas!

Thanks for the advice everyone! I might give that whole Lucid dreaming thing a try. Sounds fun. One thing though, when you realise you're dreaming, what do you do then? Can you just make whatever you want happen?

AliPies · 09-20-2006, 10:24 PM

Yeah! Pretty much whatever. I remember I was about to get attacked by aliens on my balcony once when I realized I was dreaming. So I thought "This is silly!" and they went away. So I climbed up on the bannister and just flew around my backyard. It's AWESOME.

Moon · 09-21-2006, 07:47 AM

I once dreamed I was walking in a park wearing nothing but a bikini and all others were wearing clothes. Suddenly I realised I was dreaming and I thought "I need some clothes", and it was like *poof* and I had clothes on, that was so weird, but funny too.

Lydia dubai · 09-21-2006, 08:18 PM

Hi Sara,yes you can snap out of the situation you are in,and turn it in and realy just a ,,fly away ,,dream ...and letterly leave the cqary thing you dream about behind ...it will take some time and practise,but it will work...the only thing,you have to believe in it otherwise it is not working...Lydia

Kharmine · 11-23-2006, 04:50 AM

There are two things I'd suggest 1) hypnotherapy, to put some "suggestions" in your brain to deal with the disturbing images, 2) 5-HTP, this is the name for a derivative of an amno acid called l-tryptophan, which will stabilize the serotonin level in your brain -- that which gives you a deep, placid sleep and serenity. It is similar to St. John's wort, but works immediately and has no known side effects (although you should always check with a pharmacist or your doctor if you're other meds)

Hypnotherapy should be done by a licensed and certified practitioner who can teach you how to hypnotise yourself as needed. 5-HTP is cheap, go with a reliable health food store brand if you decide to try it.

Rebecca_ · 11-23-2006, 06:13 AM

So I'm not really the type to have nightmares, and as soon as I do, I realize I'm dreaming and just wake up completely. In October, I had a big physics exam. I took a nap before, and had a nightmare. I decided to wake myself up. I thought I did, until all of a sudden reality was behaving strangely, and I knew I was still dreaming, and went right back into the nightmare, even though I knew I was dreaming the whole time. I couldn't pull myself out of the nightmare until my alarm went off. I thought it was strange until I took a nap before my next physics exam, and the same thing happened. Other than that, I am completely nightmare free, and mostly dream free. I'm a very very heavy sleeper! I need 3 alarms to get up in the morning

Oh, and the jasmine does actually work for sleep and relaxation. Give it a try!

tim'ema · 11-23-2006, 09:40 PM

This is very interesting! I've had hypnogogy my entire life. Being held frozen while entire dreams played out in front of my open eyes in my bedroom.

I have also always been aware when I am in a dream. I once found myself in a dream where I was in one of those mazes made out of shrubbery. I knew I was supposed to find the end. It was some kind of mission. So I thought, "This is a dream, right? The laws of Nature don't apply. I can do anything." Then I put my arms to my sides and looked straight up and flew up into the air and hovered over the maze. I could see the exit immediately.
I decided after waking, that the dream meant there are many alternative ways to solve a given problem.
That said, MOST dreams are SCARY. And once I realize I'm dreaming I usually becomes blindly terrified and obsessed with waking.

I recently found out about research done into accessing the hypnogogic state at will. I can't find the book right now, but basically groups of college students were put in a dark room with quiet, ambient music playing and asked to look into the crystal ball in the centre of the room (which had a soft light shining on it). After the exercise, most students reported it had been a very impressive display of holography.
Almost all the students saw something in the ball - most saw a person dancing to the rhythm of the music being played. But some saw little "movies" of their past, of dreams, etc.

The researchers' hypothesis was that peering into a semiclear, murky depth triggers the hypnogogic state. Many cultures have traditions of peering into murky depths to have visions (magic mirrors, a raw egg broken into a glass of water, etc). The theory is that this has a basis in a true shift in conciousness. Much like a moving pendulum can bring a person into a state of hypnosis.

I've recently been toying with the idea that I am naturally prone to hypnogogy, so maybe this would work for me? Perhaps allow me to explore these scary dreams and follow them where they want to take me, but at MY convenience, when I feel comfortable. Perhaps if I do this during the day, the dreams won't force themselves onto me at night.

Just thought I'd share.

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Sara · 11-23-2006, 09:54 PM

I dunno. Thing is, when I do realise I'm dreaming, I can't change anything, I still have to watch it all going on.

I have been trying lots of things to make em go, but it dunt work very well anymore.

Ee I don't know.

I think it's getting worser though. T'other neyt, I was sleeping all nice and cosy, and then I had a nightmare, woke up, had another, and woke up agen then it happened all over again. I can have loads a night, and sometimes it's the people sat next to me talking one, and sometimes other ones.

I think they even give me headaches sometimes too, cause I can wake up with an awful headache or a hurty body.

I might go an see a specialist or something cause I'm off to Uni and Tab (my cat) can't come with me to sleep on my bed. Lol.

starrbursts · 11-23-2006, 11:31 PM

That sounds aweful!!

I am soo sorry! I Would give you a big hug if possible. i don't know about you, but I believe that there are evil powers out there that for somereason effects some people and not others. Anyway, if i was in this situation, i would read my scriptures, sing hymns to myself, and pray. in the past, i know that singing hyms or reading the scriptures and prayer always helps drive the fear away when i have a nightmare...

Dipali · 11-24-2006, 05:19 AM

Dear Sara ,
I don't know what you can do to get a peaceful sleep without any nightmare. I went through a phase when i dreamt only the bad stuff every night, Fortunately i am so busy in the day times, i don't have time to think about the last nights dream. I still have nightmares quite often, but i think they are just my negative thoughts haunt me in the night. So i try to think as much as possible only the positive things. Also being sensitive doesn't help me with the situation, if i see something horrific on TV or newspapers, i cant usually get rid of it from my mind, So all these things affect my sleep. A professional can give you a good advice regarding your problem.

Dear Starrburst
you are really a sweet person, I don't know what is Evil power though, I am bit sceptical about all those power thing. My parents think i am doing good because they pray for me to the good power i believe, I never prayed in my life and probably never will, But i do try to think positive about everything which can be difficult in times .

09-20-2006, 09:23 PM	#21 (permalink)
Sara V.I.P. Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Wales/Yorkshire Posts: 1,160	Heyas! Thanks for the advice everyone! I might give that whole Lucid dreaming thing a try. Sounds fun. One thing though, when you realise you're dreaming, what do you do then? Can you just make whatever you want happen? __________________ With a little bit of this and a little bit of that, now shake your bum.... :P

09-21-2006, 08:18 PM	#24 (permalink)
Lydia dubai V.I.P. Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Dubai United arab emirates Posts: 1,351	dreams and sleep Hi Sara,yes you can snap out of the situation you are in,and turn it in and realy just a ,,fly away ,,dream ...and letterly leave the cqary thing you dream about behind ...it will take some time and practise,but it will work...the only thing,you have to believe in it otherwise it is not working...Lydia

11-23-2006, 09:40 PM	#27 (permalink)
tim'ema Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Western Canada Posts: 141	This is very interesting! I've had hypnogogy my entire life. Being held frozen while entire dreams played out in front of my open eyes in my bedroom. I have also always been aware when I am in a dream. I once found myself in a dream where I was in one of those mazes made out of shrubbery. I knew I was supposed to find the end. It was some kind of mission. So I thought, "This is a dream, right? The laws of Nature don't apply. I can do anything." Then I put my arms to my sides and looked straight up and flew up into the air and hovered over the maze. I could see the exit immediately. I decided after waking, that the dream meant there are many alternative ways to solve a given problem. That said, MOST dreams are SCARY. And once I realize I'm dreaming I usually becomes blindly terrified and obsessed with waking. I recently found out about research done into accessing the hypnogogic state at will. I can't find the book right now, but basically groups of college students were put in a dark room with quiet, ambient music playing and asked to look into the crystal ball in the centre of the room (which had a soft light shining on it). After the exercise, most students reported it had been a very impressive display of holography. Almost all the students saw something in the ball - most saw a person dancing to the rhythm of the music being played. But some saw little "movies" of their past, of dreams, etc. The researchers' hypothesis was that peering into a semiclear, murky depth triggers the hypnogogic state. Many cultures have traditions of peering into murky depths to have visions (magic mirrors, a raw egg broken into a glass of water, etc). The theory is that this has a basis in a true shift in conciousness. Much like a moving pendulum can bring a person into a state of hypnosis. I've recently been toying with the idea that I am naturally prone to hypnogogy, so maybe this would work for me? Perhaps allow me to explore these scary dreams and follow them where they want to take me, but at MY convenience, when I feel comfortable. Perhaps if I do this during the day, the dreams won't force themselves onto me at night. Just thought I'd share. AT __________________ My FructMal site My Blog

11-23-2006, 09:54 PM	#28 (permalink)
Sara V.I.P. Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Wales/Yorkshire Posts: 1,160	I dunno. Thing is, when I do realise I'm dreaming, I can't change anything, I still have to watch it all going on. I have been trying lots of things to make em go, but it dunt work very well anymore. Ee I don't know. I think it's getting worser though. T'other neyt, I was sleeping all nice and cosy, and then I had a nightmare, woke up, had another, and woke up agen then it happened all over again. I can have loads a night, and sometimes it's the people sat next to me talking one, and sometimes other ones. I think they even give me headaches sometimes too, cause I can wake up with an awful headache or a hurty body. I might go an see a specialist or something cause I'm off to Uni and Tab (my cat) can't come with me to sleep on my bed. Lol. __________________ With a little bit of this and a little bit of that, now shake your bum.... :P

11-24-2006, 05:19 AM	#30 (permalink)
Dipali Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sunshine coast,Australia Posts: 873	Dear Sara , I don't know what you can do to get a peaceful sleep without any nightmare. I went through a phase when i dreamt only the bad stuff every night, Fortunately i am so busy in the day times, i don't have time to think about the last nights dream. I still have nightmares quite often, but i think they are just my negative thoughts haunt me in the night. So i try to think as much as possible only the positive things. Also being sensitive doesn't help me with the situation, if i see something horrific on TV or newspapers, i cant usually get rid of it from my mind, So all these things affect my sleep. A professional can give you a good advice regarding your problem. Dear Starrburst you are really a sweet person, I don't know what is Evil power though, I am bit sceptical about all those power thing. My parents think i am doing good because they pray for me to the good power i believe, I never prayed in my life and probably never will, But i do try to think positive about everything which can be difficult in times . __________________ Australian Belly dance store - Belly Dance Costumes, Bollywood & Tribal outfits. Last edited by Dipali; 11-24-2006 at 08:43 AM.

09-20-2006, 10:24 PM	#22 (permalink)
AliPies Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Chicago, Illinois Posts: 45	Yeah! Pretty much whatever. I remember I was about to get attacked by aliens on my balcony once when I realized I was dreaming. So I thought "This is silly!" and they went away. So I climbed up on the bannister and just flew around my backyard. It's AWESOME.

09-21-2006, 07:47 AM	#23 (permalink)
Moon V.I.P. Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: the Netherlands Posts: 3,642	I once dreamed I was walking in a park wearing nothing but a bikini and all others were wearing clothes. Suddenly I realised I was dreaming and I thought "I need some clothes", and it was like poof and I had clothes on, that was so weird, but funny too.

11-23-2006, 04:50 AM	#25 (permalink)
Kharmine V.I.P. Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Foot of the Rocky Mountains Posts: 1,248	There are two things I'd suggest 1) hypnotherapy, to put some "suggestions" in your brain to deal with the disturbing images, 2) 5-HTP, this is the name for a derivative of an amno acid called l-tryptophan, which will stabilize the serotonin level in your brain -- that which gives you a deep, placid sleep and serenity. It is similar to St. John's wort, but works immediately and has no known side effects (although you should always check with a pharmacist or your doctor if you're other meds) Hypnotherapy should be done by a licensed and certified practitioner who can teach you how to hypnotise yourself as needed. 5-HTP is cheap, go with a reliable health food store brand if you decide to try it.

11-23-2006, 06:13 AM	#26 (permalink)
Rebecca_ Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: on my futon Posts: 106	So I'm not really the type to have nightmares, and as soon as I do, I realize I'm dreaming and just wake up completely. In October, I had a big physics exam. I took a nap before, and had a nightmare. I decided to wake myself up. I thought I did, until all of a sudden reality was behaving strangely, and I knew I was still dreaming, and went right back into the nightmare, even though I knew I was dreaming the whole time. I couldn't pull myself out of the nightmare until my alarm went off. I thought it was strange until I took a nap before my next physics exam, and the same thing happened. Other than that, I am completely nightmare free, and mostly dream free. I'm a very very heavy sleeper! I need 3 alarms to get up in the morning Oh, and the jasmine does actually work for sleep and relaxation. Give it a try!

11-23-2006, 11:31 PM	#29 (permalink)
starrbursts Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Duncan Oklahoma Posts: 94	That sounds aweful!! I am soo sorry! I Would give you a big hug if possible. i don't know about you, but I believe that there are evil powers out there that for somereason effects some people and not others. Anyway, if i was in this situation, i would read my scriptures, sing hymns to myself, and pray. in the past, i know that singing hyms or reading the scriptures and prayer always helps drive the fear away when i have a nightmare...