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Old 07-18-2008, 05:05 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Reen.Blom View Post
Does that mean that glute driven shimmies a-la Suhaila are out? Does that mean they have bigger impact on the knees than Egyptian shimmy?
Well, to clarify -- Suhaila always says she doesn't shimmy. She vibrates. I think she uses two different words because she views these are two different things.

No, glute-driven hipwork or vibrations aren't out at all -- but when we do a lot of glute work, we're strongly encouraged to massage the IT band, and to use the foam roller thing on the area of the IT band. (I was told the same thing by my trainer last year, but I ignored her because I didn't want to mess with massages and the roller, cuz it's not comfortable.)

Suhaila believes that knee-driven shimmies are not good for you. I do not share this belief, ASSUMING that you're doing the shimmy in proper form, and not slamming the knees back, and not hyperextending.

Now, it's not like I can actually DO the glute-driven vibration for any length of time, and I can barely get it to begin with, but this particular movement doesn't seem to have any noticeable affect on the knee JOINT at all. (The part that actually vibrates is the gluteus medias, which is kind of the upper part of the glute.)

But, you know the foot bone's connected to the whatever bone, and I THINK the way this works is that the glute muscle (gluteus maximus) is somehow connected to the IT band, and that's all working with the muscles around the knees, and so if you overwork one, you risk overworking or hurting the others, and that's why you're supposed to roll on the foam roller. I REALLY should have listened to my trainer, and I didn't, so I may be getting a lot of this wrong, but what I got out of out sessions was this:

Knee pain -- could be from tight IT band -- (multiple causes of tight IT band) -- fixed by rolling on the foam roller.

My last ballet teacher always swore by "rolling" only he used tennis balls. He was crazy that way.

OTOH:

My partner in dance has always done the "american shimmy" or whatever, where you shimmy by using your obliques and waist muscles. She can "shimmy" while sitting in a chair, just by alternately pulling up her side muscles. She's never complained of knee pain and thinks THIS shimmy is the safest.

your mileage may vary...
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