Please enough. We seem to have com to an impasse here. It was a fascinating thread (for various reasons - sometimes as much for an insight into western feelings as the purported subject) but it has now got lost in invective. It is pretty obvious that opinions of the 2 main protagonists are not going to change. A dignified silence would be best at this point.
Perhaps we should abandon this thread and start again when we have something new to say.
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