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charity · 04-28-2008, 03:36 PM

wow-wee.

not commenting on goverment-religion, not commenting on sexual abuse, am commenting on original thread.

i'm thinking should i include a warning...ok warning: this may be offensive.
these lifestyle choices are choices they are convicted to. its a CHOICE.

i think many westerners need to take a lesson in modesty and autonimity. i really believe that if a person wants something, they will strive for it. if that means certain freedoms, then they will seek them out. people cannot be "oppressed" without abuse. that is why it is a choice. if peoples were being abused and oppressed for 2000 years, dont you think the time would come sooner or later that they would rebel? just because we cannot see the reasons why it would be a choice, does not mean that it is a forceful way of life.

and of course there are flaws to any system, discrepancies that in time a culture seeks to ween out but that is with anything.

dont get me wrong, i'm not trying to glorify, in fact that is why i say, when a tradition/way of life no longer begins to work, you will see it change. again this is true with anything.

wearing robes, staying at home to take care of a family, sacrificing some self for your family or faith, does not make anyone primitive or unsocialized. in my opinion it makes them stronger. i mean really think about it, they LIVE by their BELIEFS. we only say we do in america (realize its a generalization, but more times than not this is true, and that is why we see the things we see in america, 14 year old girls dressing/acting likes hoes, women asserting their freedom by jumping from bed to bed, raising fatherless children in front of the television, putting more into how they look than how their families are coming up in the world...just dont get me started. this is what i mean by a lesson in modesty. women in america are probably more enslaved to men and sex than in ANY OTHER COUNTRY IN THE WORLD. we just show it in very different ways, mostly self esteem and cosmetic surgery)

anyway, i have much respect. and though i know for the poor life is much harder, this is always where the casualties are in any culture. this is a dynamic of economics. in time, i'm hoping greater availability to education will help to change this.

hope i havent sounded like a fool and have somehow conveyed what it is i was trying to say.

04-28-2008, 03:36 PM	#209 (permalink)
charity Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: north carolina Posts: 819	wow-wee. not commenting on goverment-religion, not commenting on sexual abuse, am commenting on original thread. i'm thinking should i include a warning...ok warning: this may be offensive. these lifestyle choices are choices they are convicted to. its a CHOICE. i think many westerners need to take a lesson in modesty and autonimity. i really believe that if a person wants something, they will strive for it. if that means certain freedoms, then they will seek them out. people cannot be "oppressed" without abuse. that is why it is a choice. if peoples were being abused and oppressed for 2000 years, dont you think the time would come sooner or later that they would rebel? just because we cannot see the reasons why it would be a choice, does not mean that it is a forceful way of life. and of course there are flaws to any system, discrepancies that in time a culture seeks to ween out but that is with anything. dont get me wrong, i'm not trying to glorify, in fact that is why i say, when a tradition/way of life no longer begins to work, you will see it change. again this is true with anything. wearing robes, staying at home to take care of a family, sacrificing some self for your family or faith, does not make anyone primitive or unsocialized. in my opinion it makes them stronger. i mean really think about it, they LIVE by their BELIEFS. we only say we do in america (realize its a generalization, but more times than not this is true, and that is why we see the things we see in america, 14 year old girls dressing/acting likes hoes, women asserting their freedom by jumping from bed to bed, raising fatherless children in front of the television, putting more into how they look than how their families are coming up in the world...just dont get me started. this is what i mean by a lesson in modesty. women in america are probably more enslaved to men and sex than in ANY OTHER COUNTRY IN THE WORLD. we just show it in very different ways, mostly self esteem and cosmetic surgery) anyway, i have much respect. and though i know for the poor life is much harder, this is always where the casualties are in any culture. this is a dynamic of economics. in time, i'm hoping greater availability to education will help to change this. hope i havent sounded like a fool and have somehow conveyed what it is i was trying to say.