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Originally Posted by gypsy8522
Now, while that video is labled in English " Iraqi woman beaten by her husband for not covering her face", it doesn't seem the arabic dialogue going on in the video had anything to do with the veil. This is one more reason to be grateful I speak other languages besides English!
I could post clips that show physical and sexual abuse on the hands of 'Americans' in Abu Ghraib, torture and breach of human rights in Guantanamo Bay, and footage to the raping of young girls in Iraq. And I could also post articles of hundreds of western females and stories about their abusive relationships. But I doubt those who come to this thread would be interested in any of that. I don't get the 'veil equals beating up woman' logic, a woman could be wearing a short skirt and still get beaten up by her boyfriend or husband. The content of those articles, videos were barbaric , for sure. But does that mean it represents the life of all Arabic women as a certain person was implying more than once in this thread? I saw on Oprah once that 1 in every 4 American women have been victims of domestic violence, and these are just the women who came forward and reported it! YouTube - 1 in 4 Women Victims of Domestic Violence
I tried in my last post to turn this thread around into a less serious topic and to correct some misconceptions, but it seems some people won't let go and insist on sharing information based on their own prejudices and misinformation. Coming to think of it, it's not a bad idea to "live outside America" for a while, try seeing the world through a different lense, in order to see how our reality and the world around us changes. We cannot argue about changing the world, if one does not know the world first.
I agree about the beheading, that it is not in any way "less barbaric" than solitary confinement. Not to mention electrocution, lethal injections, and gas poison, all which are legal methods of execution in the United States. Technically, the beheadings are "merciful" in comparison, at least the person doen't go through suffering and torture before dying. |
Gypsy,
I resent you calling me prejudice and misinformed. You do not know my knowledge level about middle eastern countries. You do not know my knowledge or language or where I have traveled to. You do not know my educational level as a whole. You do not know me well enough to determine that I am a prejudiced person.
In fact, I have no prejudism against Arab women. I have nothing against them personally, it is the laws that govern them that I have issues with.
Does it matter in the video I posted the reason the man was beating his wife? The bottom line is the woman was being beaten. She was guarding herself against his attacks and cowering in fear. I never said abuse does not occur in all areas of our world. My conversation was with A'isha regarding if the men were executed regarding the drug running. I was posting information regarding that topic and other topics of interest to me. I am certain the country you live in has the crimes you posted that the United States has. It is unfortunate that women have to be the victims of domestic abuse. Men also are victims of abuse. (BOTH in all countries.)
I do not have the "Veil and beating up logic" you speak of. Those are YOUR words. My point is that these punishments are way too harsh for women or for men. While I do not agree with having marital affairs and I believe it is immoral to do so, I certainly do not agree with the punishment of burying a woman in the ground so that she can get stones thrown at her until her death. How long do you imagine it would take for her to die in this situation? I am apalled at the punishment for women in Iran. (Or in other countries that would allow such a thing.)
The solitary confinement you speak of in the United States is only done when someone is considered harmful to others or to oneself. Solitary confinement in a war situation is an entirely different topic. Perhaps the studies show it can be traumatic for the individual after the event, however, is it any better to let release that person into a situation they are harmful to others?
I believe we are talking about 2 different circumstances here: 1. A woman who has extramarital affairs is being murdered. 2. Serial killers or killers who have killed one to numerous amounts of innocent people.
Capital punishment in the United States only occurs in certain states. Circumstances for capital punishment are for serial killers or murderers, such as Timothy McVeigh who bombed the federal building in Oklahoma City murdering innocent victims. <---That is just one example. While I do not believe in capital punishment and the state of Minnesota where I live does not have capital punishment, is murdering a woman for having an affair outside or marriage or having a serial killer executed the same thing? I do not believe it is...But that is my opinion.
Simply stated, I believe that killing the woman is one of the most barbaric things I have ever heard of. Believe me, a majority of people would feel much more comfortable if a serial killer was no longer with us on this earth than an Arab woman commiting adultery.
Perhaps you should leave your country and move to the States to see for yourself what it is all about.
In response to your earlier posts towards me, I feel the vulgar terms you used are not appropriate for you or other forum members to be using here. There are young girls and teenagers who use this website. What kind of an example are we setting for them. I believe I had a right to state my opinion and tell you, you were wrong in using vulgar terms.