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Originally Posted by A'isha Azar
Dear Tarik,
I would assume that I would be as welcome to comment as anyone else on the thread, my name coming into it or not. You often do not make clear whether or not you mean street dance, which in effect is not belly dance, or actual belly dance, which is a stage entertainment, or theatrical or authentic folkloric. I have asked you before to please clarify and so if I get confused by what you say, please be willing to take at least 50% of the responsibility. In fact we agree, even in theatrical representations of the dances, men often do move their hips. Her teacher actually said something more along the lines of men don't move their hips like women do, which I find to be an anatomically correct statement. Since I do not intend to get into a long thing with you on Christmas Eve let me say
"Merry Christmas to all (especially that good looking Tarik dude) and to all a good night!!~"
Regards,
A'isha
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Dear A'isha:
I'd be willing to accept part of the blame, but in this instance, I'm innocent, innocent I TELL YOU!!!! You didn't fully read her comment, and so my response to it was not clear. However, you should know me enough by now and from all of my articles, that its my position that one has to make a distinction between the social dance as versus the professional dance. This has always been my position since I wrote my fiorst article way back when, when I used the term Oriental dance for both. This was before I was aware of the term Baladi, so I differentiated by saying amature Oriental Dance and professional Oriental Dance.
For the record, this is the exact statement Moondancer made that prompted my response.
Moondancer: People keep insisting that male belly dance is part of Middle Eastern culture but I think they mistake traditional Middle Eastern folk dances for "belly dance". My teacher who is Egyptian has shown us some of the moves that men do when dancing to oriental music. They involve canes and a lot of shoulder and leg movement but NEVER the hips and the belly.
Now the both us us know that this is not true. Men and women do infact use the same movements women do when dancing socially, even to Oriental music. Further more, previous to this statement she claimed that these movements, if done by a man, will give him a feminine shape. Perhaps I should have addressed that one, but why bother now. I hope you now understand what was said on both sides and the context within which I responded.
And if you wake up tonight to find a fat guy in your living room, SHOOT HIM, IT AI'NT SANTA! Oh, but save me the cookies, I'll save you some Jamaican black cake, and I won't even put any poison on youir piece, promise!
